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varanio;1244219; said:
This has nothing to do with me and what I like, this has to do with learning, advancing and coming up with fresh and innovative ways to keep our animals while letting them perform their life events. We forget as keepers that these animals are programmed in their DNA to feed stay warm and cool to accomplish life events then die when the time comes. We get selfish as keepers and dictate what they should be how they should be where they should be etc etc etc.... those are those boxes we dictate them to live in. Why not make it more comfortable for them to live in there, by making it as close to wild as it could possibly be ? Why settle for reptile carpet, calcium sand, and many of the other propagized products that are drilled in us that are beneficial to the animal when in fact they are not. Again this isnt about you or me or loconorc or the newer hobbyists that keep asking the same question over and over and over again. This is why there are threads, this is why there are search options,pinned topics, archives, for us to do the research. This all ties in to the fact that we want everything on a silver platter. Success is measured on how long you manage to keep your animal healthy and alive to their scientifically proven ages, thats success to me, and the icing on the cake would be to watch them breed and produce generations. We can agree to disagree all we want and we may share different views on what we think is right or wrong, but im basing my views on experience and speaking with and interacting with dinosaurs who have been researching reptiles long before I was even into them, reading journals, thesisis, etc... and the best teachers of them all the animals. This is what I have been trying to preach to everyone. Let the animal tell you whats wrong, plain and simple, if you do that then ..... it will be a better road.


Thats more than fair enough Varanio. But on the matter discussed in this thread, if unsure of whether I'm reading what my animals tell me right.. I can then only follow the next best thing. My heart when it tells me whats right and if I generally believe it to be the best thing for it.

In this case, changing animals bedding as often as possible with few exceptions (tarantulas, burrowing animals and the like).
 
loconorc;1244236; said:
:iagree::iagree::iagree:


Edit: Err, with varanio! Jeez, yall reply too fast! lol

I agree with you too jessica and see your point. The second part though, I just want to say that mine wasnt a 'theory'. Its my opinion, with facts based on studies that I have seen as well as BLATANT RESULTS.

Notice how the people that obsess over cleaning and everything else unnecesary get nowhere. Sure, the animals still alive. People that stop obsessing over things like that and get down to the simple basics like it should be get real results in breeding and animals that are the picture of health. Im not saying to try and be dirty, just pick up poop and call it a day.


Loco this is a good point and there have been ongoing studies in human medecine, that state that the more we try to sterilize ourselves the more we open ourselves to the failing of our immune system. Kinda scary, but I have to always jump on the "if it aint broke dont fix it bandwagon". Of course we should always have our routine check ups ha ha ha ha ha ha... !
 
Okay, seems point was made and everyone got it across...

Hey varanio, if you want to start a collection of caresheets, Im your man! I know several great ones as well as sites and forums in general for a lot of the common species discussed here. And I mean GOOD, not some repticzone crap written by a 10 year old with a sav.

I think though, you should include a paragraph in them about the principle of reptile keeping in general. The importance of life events, RESULTS, things of that nature.

Later! I'm hitting the hay soon, dont know how much longer Ill be on.
 
Dang, we reply too damn fast! xD

Thats it varanio, you got it. ;)
 
Jessica Dring;1244246; said:
Thats more than fair enough Varanio. But on the matter discussed in this thread, if unsure of whether I'm reading what my animals tell me right.. I can then only follow the next best thing. My heart when it tells me whats right and if I generally believe it to be the best thing for it.

In this case, changing animals bedding as often as possible with few exceptions (tarantulas, burrowing animals and the like).

Without a doubt I think its important, and the practice of keeping a stable enviornment should be kept for the animal in balance with the keepers tolerance of certain smells.
 
That is the good thing though, reptiles don't generally smell bad and neither does they're poop (when dry - and with the exception of iguanas poo:irked:) which is why I prefer them to most animals. Merely any odour. Even if they swetted, ultimate animal!! :)
 
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