Again if you know the owner at the lfs then price is negotiable. I actually know the owner of the black ray at riverfront and could get it for cheaper if I was in the market for buying one. Not all rays at the lfs belong to the lfs. Sometimes the rays are left there on consignment by breeders or hobbyists! Sometimes you have to support your lfs and that's how you get to know them and get good deals.Calgary has Riverfront that always has a variety of rays for sale. While I appreciate the LFS, you can get a better deal from private breeders. Once you get to know some of them you will see that their quality is better since they love the fish they breed. If you want help finding something let me know I would love to help.