Black Rhom

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Beautiful Jp.

I think the conclusion from everything verrucket has posted is that they want a great showfish with intense colors, of a significant size and dirt cheap. Oh, and it needs to be play nice with the other fish.

:screwy:


Why exactly piranha then? There are far more better looking fish out there... I love my boys but I'm willing to admit there not the first fish I check out in the store.
 
Foster;4405926; said:
Beautiful Jp.

I think the conclusion from everything verrucket has posted is that they want a great showfish with intense colors, of a significant size and dirt cheap. Oh, and it needs to be play nice with the other fish.

:screwy:


Why exactly piranha then? There are far more better looking fish out there... I love my boys but I'm willing to admit there not the first fish I check out in the store.


I know you dont' mean any harm but i'm just happy he's doing research atleast. Alot of people would've just done it and then posted a "experiment failed" post hahaha.

Ah gl man. I'd get a shoal of something since you're wanting multiple fish and not wanting to shell out the big bucks for the larger specimen either.
 
yeah im doin my research. feel its a must - to hell with expensive "failed experiments". if i was rich i'd have a 1200 gallon amazon biotope with about 4 rhom's in it. i found a great website that tells tons of useful info. the guy who did the site has been researching pirahna since the 60's-70's from what ive read. VERY NOLIGABLE. he said the only 2 cases of black rhom's breeding in captivity was in a 1200 gallon aquarium in germany in like 1977. the breed and the babies were takin out to grow to about 6" and some where put back in there. then another breeding occured and they left the babies in there and the parents killed them all. also from what i gather they play well with each other till about 6" or so, then all hell breaks lose. they do grow slow after they hit the 5" mark, but the guy thinks its because of stress, tank size, diet all mixed together. so, just assuming you could replicate there home enviroment in a big tank to reduse stress and tank size issues, and replicate there diet. you could probably get one to grow fairly quicker.

why i want pirahna? well, i want something with teeth. that doesn't get 4' long. a true "river monster" and top predator. i know i could pick up some rbp's for cheap, they'd shoal, breed, etc... but whats the point? nothing wrong wth rb's - there just a little to common. like i know 2 people who have / had pirahna's. both people had 4-5 rb's. the only other options i know of are, piyara (spelling). there expensive and i hear they dont live to long in captivity. plus the size they can get. not done alot of research on them tho. just a litte. the tigerfish. there bad asses, but @ same time, thats a fish with huge growth potential, and i don't want to be the ******* keeping a huge fish in a small tank and stunt its growth and shorten its life span. plus they are pricey. way more than i wanna spend on a fish.

jp - nice pic's. thanks for that info.

if anyone has idea's for species/breeds of fish fitting what im looking for im open to suggestions. always am. i plan on taking my time with this to make sure its done right. still have alot of research to do on making a black water amazon biotope. wood to use, how to make water that color, the plants etc....
 
as mentioned you can go with manueli but if you want a shoal you are limited to just pygocentrus. since you don't want rbps, what about caribes? or piraya. if you go with piraya it's better to keep one solo since they are known for their cannibalism.
piraya is only of the largest piranhas, has the potential of growing to 24" but the biggest in captivity is 20" and was imported at around that size. there are three color variants, yellow, orange and red (some think it's just a dark tone of orange) and the color flame up above lateral line and won't fade away as they age unlike rbp and caribes.

here's one I had at ~6"

Piraya 01.jpg

Piraya 02.jpg
 
Or a shoal of Macs. Serra look with pygo type shoaling.
 
or geryi but it's more pricy.
with macs it may or may not work, you'll have to try it out yourself.
 
verruckt;4409043; said:
yeah im doin my research. feel its a must - to hell with expensive "failed experiments". if i was rich i'd have a 1200 gallon amazon biotope with about 4 rhom's in it. i found a great website that tells tons of useful info. the guy who did the site has been researching pirahna since the 60's-70's from what ive read. VERY NOLIGABLE. he said the only 2 cases of black rhom's breeding in captivity was in a 1200 gallon aquarium in germany in like 1977. the breed and the babies were takin out to grow to about 6" and some where put back in there. then another breeding occured and they left the babies in there and the parents killed them all. also from what i gather they play well with each other till about 6" or so, then all hell breaks lose.

It's hard to believe that only 1 zoo has done this in the last 40 years. It's truly shows how difficult this is. The hobby has advanced so much since then and interests and availability of piranhas is probably at an all time high. Someone would've broken through again by now. Back in the 70s people thought aged water was a must and feed crazy diets. I'm all for the advancement of the hobby but not for people attempting to do things in the home aquarium what research institutions with fundings can't accomplish in large aquariums
 
jp80911;4409224; said:
with macs it may or may not work, you'll have to try it out yourself.

I guess I just got lucky. I moved my mixed pygo/mac shoal into my 220g this morning and they're just loving all the new space.
 
knox_rbp;4409306; said:
I guess I just got lucky. I moved my mixed pygo/mac shoal into my 220g this morning and they're just loving all the new space.

When you get a chance, can we get pics?
 
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