blue pike

[MultispeciesTamer]

well lets discuss blue pike some say they still live some say they dont ill post a few pics of blue walleye, and a link and you decide

http://www.nativefish.org/bluepike/gallery.php













none of there pics are mine there just ones i found on the internet

 

[Mikeberg]

I've seen some that were really blue in color, I will try and find the sight.

I hope they are still around, people say they were stocked in lakes in ONT. and that is where most of the picks come from.

Mike

 

[blurock]

Looks like a walleye with a color variation... I catch at least one perch like that every time I go out... Figured it was cause they were eatting something different or grew up in a different part of the lake... and I'm not really seeing the larger eyes... they're walleye, they have big eyes...

Sorry if im being a buzz kill, but that just doesn't seem that odd to me i guess...

 

[MultispeciesTamer]

The great lakes are massive bodys of water so its almost impossible for people to eliminate all of them, the only way they could disapear is if they hybridized with walleye.
People find species that were thought to be extint all the time. Animals that live in a massive area that get hunted out or in this case get fished out will move to other parts of the area.
Yes food and climate can change the apperence of the fish but not drasticly.
I bet if you caught 10 walleye out of lake Erie and DNA tested all of them, some would have blue walleye DNA present.
Ive also heard they stocked blue walleye long ago in different bodys of water in Canada, Wisconsin, Minnisota.
The blue walleye is just an adaption of a normal walleye where one dominant trait in certain fish survived and breed with others untill they populated the lakes. Probly started of as just a color morph that blended in more and was less likly to get seen by predators then a normal walleye.
Just like the great Lakes muskie compared to other strains of muskie it just hasnt adaped for a long enough time period to be a subspecies.

 

[MN_Rebel]

The true blue pike went extinct long time ago. this is only normal walleye with blue slime. If its true blue pike then it would have bigger eyes and reach only 15 inch long. Plus I dont think they can hybridizing with walleye because blue pike spawn in deeper parts of the lake/river, therefore prevent hybridization with other subspecies of the walleye. Blue pike are deepwater fish.

 

[MultispeciesTamer]

and how much open water is present on all the Great Lakes , alot

 

[MultispeciesTamer]

heres another link

http://pond.dnr.cornell.edu/nyfish/Percidae/blue_pike.html

 

[blurock]

The great lakes are massive bodys of water so its almost impossible for people to eliminate all of them, the only way they could disapear is if they hybridized with walleye.
People find species that were thought to be extint all the time. Animals that live in a massive area that get hunted out or in this case get fished out will move to other parts of the area.
Yes food and climate can change the apperence of the fish but not drasticly.
I bet if you caught 10 walleye out of lake Erie and DNA tested all of them, some would have blue walleye DNA present.
Ive also heard they stocked blue walleye long ago in different bodys of water in Canada, Wisconsin, Minnisota.
The blue walleye is just an adaption of a normal walleye where one dominant trait in certain fish survived and breed with others untill they populated the lakes. Probly started of as just a color morph that blended in more and was less likly to get seen by predators then a normal walleye.
Just like the great Lakes muskie compared to other strains of muskie it just hasnt adaped for a long enough time period to be a subspecies.

Alright that description makes more sense... in that case its a tad more like seeing Albino Morphs where its a recessive gene and comes down to genetics for it to show.

 

[MultispeciesTamer]

thats waht i would think

 

[Polypterus]

heres another link

http://pond.dnr.cornell.edu/nyfish/Percidae/blue_pike.html

The only thing about Blue pike in this link is the picture.. None of the information nor the map shown have anything to do with them..

The Blue pike also only existed in the Eastern Basin of Lake Erie not in the Great lakes as a whole.

There is verified evidence that Blue pike hybridized with Yellows.

Blue Pike are EXTINCT.... Thats all folks... None have been found in any of these oft mentioned "stocked" lakes.. They have been looked for. The entire Lake erie basin has also been sample about 3 times over since the last record of these fish. Sure it would be great if they where still there somehow but the chances are now better to find a living Loch Ness Monster or having an Alien space craft land on the Whitehouse lawn...