blue pike

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kafiltafiisch;2507208; said:
yeah thats what i said, i caught a grey walleye which is a blue pike thanks to the people who dont know what the difference between pike and walleye it was a "blue walleye"

grey walleye = blue pike


Did you get a picture?
 
kafiltafiisch;2507208; said:
yeah thats what i said, i caught a grey walleye which is a blue pike thanks to the people who dont know what the difference between pike and walleye it was a "blue walleye"

grey walleye = blue pike

Well...no.

Blue pike (Sander vitreus glaucus) were a subspecies of walleye. But they were not defined by color alone. These fish were morphologically distinct in other ways and occupied only a portion of the species' range. However, the nominate (and sole living) race of walleye, Sander vitreus vitreus, sometimes shows a blue color; this is a result of two coinciding phenotypic oddities: albinism and a blue pigment (sandercyanin) in the mucus coat.

Here's a link to some researchers looking at this phenomenon: http://wayneschaefer.blogspot.com/

These blue-colored walleye are not blue pike.
 
i have noticed one dif of walleye color morphs and possible real blue pike, the color morphs will and should have white tips on there fins such as pics 1,2,4,5 in the first post and its hard to tell if pic 3 cuz of the snow but the front fins dont have the white colored tips now all the real blue pike pics and drawings ive seen there is no white tip color
 
ewurm;2507248; said:
Did you get a picture?
no unfortunatley but if i go to pa and fish this summer for eyes ill be sure to get some of that thing

eh i think they are out there but thats some awesome info
 
E_americanus;2501220; said:
a neglected issue in the "hilarity" of the situation, however, is that there are two major different groups of people involved. there are the local people who made use of the endemic species as its own fishery, and there are larger colonial/corporation type people who introduced the nile perch as a sport fish. the money made by the nile perch fishery primarily benefits the big corporation people, while the local people don't see much benefit at all...so now their native species are in decline AND their socio-economic status is not so great.

until the Nile perch is overfished to the point of not being a viable fishery, that fishery will still continue to be funded by the higher-ups and the state of the lake will remain in peril for people and fishes. although that sounds somewhat complex, even these comments are gross summaries of the situation in Lake Victoria; definitely a sad state of affairs--
--solomon
Yeah, the lake really is in sad shape. It is ironic how the Nile perch population is shrinking due to overfishing which is allowing some native species to return, but this doesn't make up for the fact that well over 200 species of fish entirely unique to the lake are gone forever. The local people are in too poor of an economic state to really even begin to care about the ecological state of the lake and the big African and European fishery corporations don't seem to care a whole lot as long as they bring in enough fish.
 
just got the new infisherman walleye, there is an article about blue walleyes. the blue slime coat has been named " sandercyanin". the theory is that walleye have been adapting to more UV light and thats how the color morph has come about. The also says they have been tracking reports of blue pike in lake erie. He believes there is still a breeding population in the lake.
 
Polypterus;2497183; said:
The only thing about Blue pike in this link is the picture.. None of the information nor the map shown have anything to do with them..

The Blue pike also only existed in the Eastern Basin of Lake Erie not in the Great lakes as a whole.

There is verified evidence that Blue pike hybridized with Yellows.

Blue Pike are EXTINCT.... Thats all folks... None have been found in any of these oft mentioned "stocked" lakes.. They have been looked for. The entire Lake erie basin has also been sample about 3 times over since the last record of these fish. Sure it would be great if they where still there somehow but the chances are now better to find a living Loch Ness Monster or having an Alien space craft land on the Whitehouse lawn...

That could happen :naughty:
 
One was caught in the U.P here in Michigan in '07 or '08, I think around Marquette
 
Foxbrosracing;3724561; said:
One was caught in the U.P here in Michigan in '07 or '08, I think around Marquette
Neat, a color morph?
 
It is posible that they still exist, don't forget about the ivery billed woodpecker. It was thought to be extent too, but I will not hold mt breath. Even though I really hope they find some.
 
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