bluegill

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dcorreia;4507996; said:
Northern Pike is right, and the rest of you are idiots... You don't NEED a 150 g tank for a bluegill. 30g is fine if you catch him small and no it will not grow as fast or big in a 30 g but no fish will grow as big as it should in a tank. Have you ever heard of a 20lb bass being caught in a small pond? No, because it doesnt happen. For fish to reach their full growing potential they need lots of space.

dcorreia;4508012; said:
Another note, you guys talk about stunted growth like the fish are dying... It happens all the time in the wild. The fish just dont grow as big but they are healthy. it could be from the size of the body they live in or lack of food or competition.....

Your calling us idiots, and you think its ok to keep a fish that can potentially grow 12"+ in a 30 gallon? If were going to be keeping pets, we have the responsibility to provide them with the best care possible, and stunting them because you think they dont need a bigger tank shows your ignorance...
 
fisher12889;4508069; said:
Your calling us idiots, and you think its ok to keep a fish that can potentially grow 12"+ in a 30 gallon? If were going to be keeping pets, we have the responsibility to provide them with the best care possible, and stunting them because you think they dont need a bigger tank shows your ignorance...
PWNed noob! Keep your uneducated comments to yourself. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about dcorreia.
 
dcorreia;4507996; said:
For fish to reach their full growing potential they need lots of space.


haha thx for proving our point about stund growth.
 
Why large fish do not belong in small tanks.

Keeping fish in an aquarium that is too small is incredibly unhealthy. It morally wrong to put something that grows large into a small confine area for several reasons. 1) You are preventing the fish from growing to it's full potential. It will either become stunted, or it will die. 2) You are causing the fish to live extremely uncomfortably. Imagine yourself, living in a 3 foot by 3 foot closet, with only a bucket to go to the bathroom in. No matter how much air circulation there is, no matter how much you are fed, and no matter how many times that bucket is dumped out, you are guaranteed to live a miserable life. This is exactly what is happening to large fish in small aquariums.

If the fish does not suffocate in it's own filth, it is going to become stunted. Stunting is very painful, and causes deformities. Deformities include internal organs growing inside the body, even when the body is not growing. Soon the organs will grow too large and either 1) 1 or more organs will burst open inside the fish causing a massively painful death for the fish, or 2) An organ will grow too large for the body to be able to supply energy to and the fish will die of some sort of organ failure, usually a slow death. Other symptoms of stunting are sculliosis, which can get to the point where the fish can barely move, and does cause severe spinal pain for the fish.

So please, if you plan on putting large fish in small tanks, reconsider your options. If you already have fish in a tank too small for them, please, take them back and get smaller fish.
 
FishingOut;4508358; said:
Why large fish do not belong in small tanks.

Keeping fish in an aquarium that is too small is incredibly unhealthy. It morally wrong to put something that grows large into a small confine area for several reasons. 1) You are preventing the fish from growing to it's full potential. It will either become stunted, or it will die. 2) You are causing the fish to live extremely uncomfortably. Imagine yourself, living in a 3 foot by 3 foot closet, with only a bucket to go to the bathroom in. No matter how much air circulation there is, no matter how much you are fed, and no matter how many times that bucket is dumped out, you are guaranteed to live a miserable life. This is exactly what is happening to large fish in small aquariums.

If the fish does not suffocate in it's own filth, it is going to become stunted. Stunting is very painful, and causes deformities. Deformities include internal organs growing inside the body, even when the body is not growing. Soon the organs will grow too large and either 1) 1 or more organs will burst open inside the fish causing a massively painful death for the fish, or 2) An organ will grow too large for the body to be able to supply energy to and the fish will die of some sort of organ failure, usually a slow death. Other symptoms of stunting are sculliosis, which can get to the point where the fish can barely move, and does cause severe spinal pain for the fish.

So please, if you plan on putting large fish in small tanks, reconsider your options. If you already have fish in a tank too small for them, please, take them back and get smaller fish.

well said :headbang2
 
WOW one bump and a 3 page fight over stunting a fish's growth. Are there diff tipe's of BG cus ive never seen a blue around me get that big the bigest one ive ever cought is 9inch's
 
lol, so your telling me if you put a LMB in a 300 g tank it's not going to be stunted? Almost all North American fish in any size tank will be stunted unless your tank is the size of Lake Catiac.... If you put a bluegill in a 300 g tank it wont grow to is full potential. And I still call BS on the guy who thinks he can raise 12 inch Bluegill in a 600 g tank. If you are so worried about the stunting of your fish then you need to dig a pond or get into guppies.
 
Exactly look at bass pro shops those fish might be healthy but is 1000 fish who can PPPPOOOOSSSIBLYYY get to 10 ibs crammed in a 7000 gallon tank right? I don't think so, SO! your telling me every time i catch an 8inch bluegill its not fully grown??? Also the world record bluegill was a hybrid that has the genes to grow huge and was fed on pellets. Any "natural" fish will vever get that big unless it has the genes. And even if the fish is stunted its 1 freakin bluegill its not like its the only albino pink spotted bowfin. jesus, some people are such tree huggers on this forum its not even funny, like comments like oh that bluegill could die and be stunted and never live a healthy life, what if that bluegill was going to be bashed on the rocks by some bass fisherman who had no respect for bluegill, I think i stated enough for now...
 
Northern Pike;4511359; said:
Exactly look at bass pro shops those fish might be healthy but is 1000 fish who can PPPPOOOOSSSIBLYYY get to 10 ibs crammed in a 7000 gallon tank right? I don't think so, SO! your telling me every time i catch an 8inch bluegill its not fully grown??? Also the world record bluegill was a hybrid that has the genes to grow huge and was fed on pellets. Any "natural" fish will vever get that big unless it has the genes. And even if the fish is stunted its 1 freakin bluegill its not like its the only albino pink spotted bowfin. jesus, some people are such tree huggers on this forum its not even funny, like comments like oh that bluegill could die and be stunted and never live a healthy life, what if that bluegill was going to be bashed on the rocks by some bass fisherman who had no respect for bluegill, I think i stated enough for now...
The reason why people are commenting about this is because they care about all fish and to them its not just "1 freakin bluegill", its a living creature that doesnt deserve an uncomfortable life or a painful death. They are trying to prevent someone from making a mistake that many people make all the time when they get a fish when it is small and is supposed to reach a size that is too big for the tank they have. What you stated proves nothing. Why does a fisherman bashing a bluegill on a rock prove that it is ok to put one in a tank that is too small and make them live in conditions that are uncomfortable or painful for them? Atleast with the bashing they die instantly.
 
The pic not mine, found at world record site. the world record Bluegill was not an hybird. but when it comes to record its more of a weight then actual length. IGFA WORLD RECORD BLUEGILL = 4 lb. 12 oz
off record
5lbs 7ozs 13+ inches Caught by Amos Gray in 1998, somewhere in SC (http://www.thecrappiekiller.com/bigfish.html)

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