Boy commits suicide, text messages reveal encouragement
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I agree 100%. I was embarrassed by it all. Bad example for her 18 year old daughter too. Here honey, when you mess up by driving 2 states without insurance and rear end someone, just scam your way out of it. Anyway, point being, phone record (was all texts) was one of their ways of proving it was a scam
i think suffering from depression is a real thing
someone with thoughts of suicide has a mental issue. egging on someone who suffers from a thing like that has to be held accountable
if a person who had thoughts of child molestation never acted on it, but i helped convince him/her until they finally did the act, i'm partially to blame. it's the same concept in this case imo
someone with thoughts of suicide has a mental issue. egging on someone who suffers from a thing like that has to be held accountable
if a person who had thoughts of child molestation never acted on it, but i helped convince him/her until they finally did the act, i'm partially to blame. it's the same concept in this case imo
I think she should be held accountable. As Sumo said depression is a real. There are drugs used for treatment of it because there's often times a actual chemical imbalance. That being said if someone was suffering from retardation another mental impairment, and such a thing occurred would it be looked at different? In both instances someone is taking advantage of someone who is impaired.
pops
sorry but I disagree IMO she didn't think she was being trolled or just dealing with someone whose dramatic. She started driving the convo toward suicide while he tried to ignore it at first. He asked "How was your day?" she responds "When are you doing it?" He didn't respond to her question instead he referred to something sent via snapchat and that he had a good day. She then continued on about when he'd be doing it. So at very least in this instance he wasn't looking for sympathy or being a dramatic attention seeker, she was unprovoked driving the convo and him toward suicide.
She even had enough fore thought to ask him to erase the texts before committing suicide. That doesn't sound like the actions of someone who thinks they're being trolled. If anything suggesting that this was premeditated on her part and she knew what she was doing was wrong. Why else would she want the texts deleted?
pops
sorry but I disagree IMO she didn't think she was being trolled or just dealing with someone whose dramatic. She started driving the convo toward suicide while he tried to ignore it at first. He asked "How was your day?" she responds "When are you doing it?" He didn't respond to her question instead he referred to something sent via snapchat and that he had a good day. She then continued on about when he'd be doing it. So at very least in this instance he wasn't looking for sympathy or being a dramatic attention seeker, she was unprovoked driving the convo and him toward suicide.She even had enough fore thought to ask him to erase the texts before committing suicide. That doesn't sound like the actions of someone who thinks they're being trolled. If anything suggesting that this was premeditated on her part and she knew what she was doing was wrong. Why else would she want the texts deleted?
Hello; pardon my ignorance of the facts if I get some things wrong. The two never physically met. Were never in the same vicinity. The girl did not in any way supply the means for the suicide. The girl did not facilitate in any way such as loading a weapon, turning on gas or filling a syringe. They only knew each other thru some sort of electronic communication but not necessarily by a spoken phone conversation. Was the girl the first to broach the subject of suicide?
Also again my Hannibal question. Is this girl supposed to have some extraordinary manipulation skills or knowledge beyond the average person? Analogy might be someone with a black belt compared to the average guy with no martial arts training in a fight.
During my life time I have been told, usually face to face, to go do some things that would have resulted in serious injury or death. I was not inclined to do what was suggested in the first place so did not do the various things. I guess my thinking being that no one is going to talk me into something I am not already inclined to do.
Last question. Does anyone know of laws the cover this type situation? I know there are some laws against direct assistance in a suicide.
Also again my Hannibal question. Is this girl supposed to have some extraordinary manipulation skills or knowledge beyond the average person? Analogy might be someone with a black belt compared to the average guy with no martial arts training in a fight.
During my life time I have been told, usually face to face, to go do some things that would have resulted in serious injury or death. I was not inclined to do what was suggested in the first place so did not do the various things. I guess my thinking being that no one is going to talk me into something I am not already inclined to do.
Last question. Does anyone know of laws the cover this type situation? I know there are some laws against direct assistance in a suicide.
This is sad in so many ways. Legislation needs to be updated quicker to reflect the advancement of our digital world if these charges don't stick solely due to the fact it was not in person. That being said if it is found not a crime regardless if it was in person or not then that is very unfortunate but one of many injustices in a flawed legal system. As much as it grinds my gears law can't be enforced retroactively, ie. if you jaywalked before it was illegal you shouldn't be charged just because someone decides after you did it that it is a crime. So the best thing that can come from this is forcing the government to look at updating the laws.
Were they really 14? I thought they were 17 at the time.
Both pops and hello there guy, they talked over the phone as well as webcam, Skype, snapchat etc etc. it's not the same as you and I talking on a forum unanimously. it's more like a soldier webcamming/texting/calling his wife and kids while overseas in a war zone. We know for sure they spoke on the phone because of phone records and her admitting she could've stopped it
I think she should go to jail, the law needs to catch up with technology, assisting someone with a suicide in this manner is illegal. There is just no law about "texting" or "chat rooms" or something of the such yet....*to my knowledge.
There has to be something wrong with this young lady to do this to another person, but I guess that is not what is being disputed.
pops
I understand what your saying but without jail, its mere slap on the wrists.
EDIT- Wait they were 14 when this happened? Yikes, that is pretty young, its hard to determine outcomes with these types of scenarios. I would hate to be in the "jury" if you will.
There has to be something wrong with this young lady to do this to another person, but I guess that is not what is being disputed.
pops
I understand what your saying but without jail, its mere slap on the wrists.EDIT- Wait they were 14 when this happened? Yikes, that is pretty young, its hard to determine outcomes with these types of scenarios. I would hate to be in the "jury" if you will.
