Boy commits suicide, text messages reveal encouragement

[SumoNinja]

Hello; I get that the girl is an A hole and equates flushable waste. I still do not see the crime. Having irritated a couple of women to the point of verbably wishing me dead, I was not inclined to kill myself. Does it not seem likely that the boy was inclined toward suicide on his own regardless of how the girl was involved. I just do not see anyone talking me into suicide if I am not already inclined that way.

I feel pretty much the opposite

I don't see how it's not a crime to egg someone on who is contemplating suicide to the point they actually do it. That is my point

And like koltsix said, she took advantage of him in a state of mind he had little control over.

Would you brush it off if the boy was your son?

 

[ballinouttacntrol]

S skjl47 did you actually read the link? The full text exchange over numerous days? Would you be surprised that the transcript goes even further? Where she suggests different ways for them to commit suicide? They settled on the generator after discussing several other methods. I'm convinced this boy is still alive without her pressure. He seemed like he was in decent place, working, walking his dog, taking his sister out for ice cream, laughing about things. He wasn't ready. She kept pushing him to get it over with though. She could've left it alone and just been his friend. She made a horrible mistake of applying real pressure. Not calling his bluff but really pushed him into it. Then pretended to grieve and set up foundations in his name.

 

[pops]

paint her hands red, and burn as a stuffy guy!!! kidding,

 

[skjl47]

I don't see how it's not a crime to egg someone on who is contemplating suicide to the point they actually do it. That is my point

Hello; I understand the point you make. We are on opposite sides of who is responsible. I still think we own our own actions. I have had women influence me into doing things I later regreted, but I did them and I made the decision to to do them. Influence or no influence the final decision was mine to make.

Would you brush it off if the boy was your son?

Hello; This is a loaded question. Most parents are irrational when it comes to their own children. I saw it too many times as a public school teacher.

 

[ballinouttacntrol]

Carter and Roy had met two years earlier while both were visiting relatives in Florida. They kept in touch through text message and email upon returning to Massachusetts. The two lived about 50 miles apart and hadn’t seen each other for about a year before Roy died.

While discussing the plan, Carter appears to taunt Roy. "But I bet you're gonna be like 'oh, it didn't work because I didn't tape the tube right or something like that," she wrote. "I bet you're gonna say an excuse like that ... you seem to always have an excuse."

Cataldo said Carter had tried to repeatedly talk Roy out of killing himself and only decided to support his plan after it became clear Roy wasn’t going back. After about a month before his suicide, she suggested that he seek treatment at a psychiatric hospital where she was receiving treatment for an undisclosed condition. Roy refused and later suggested that they both kill themselves, like Romeo and Juliet, Cataldo said.



It appears they had met in person....and it appears she had some sort of condition of her own. The above is from pop's link

 

[piranhaman00]

So they were 18?? She probably has some issues of her own to deal with, maybe jail is not the best option. Of course, looking through the boy's parents perspective gives a different viewpoint. However, she is an adult in the law and this is clearly a form of manslaughter.

Difficult situations like these are not enticing for anyone.

 

[pops]

2 mentally Ill folk, I do not have the training to judge nor all the facts, opinion can be one way while reality can be quite the opposite.

 

[davenmandy]

If she is a sociopath then she'll wind up in jail or dead anyway. As much as I sympathize with the fact that in reality yes you do own your own actions and she didn't physically kill him, something feels wrong about not holding her fully responsible in this particular circumstance. I think it's the fact that he really didn't want to do it, and i wonder what the good Samaritan law of the land is there because arent you to a extent obligated by to help someone in when you know of impending harm? Him planning and not doing it but talking to someone about it is a textbook cry for help without intent.

 

[Wailua Boy]

I wonder if she'll get off on a technicality, hard to prove she was the actual person sending text or someone borrowed phone? Unless there is recorded face time.....

 

[skjl47]

in reality yes you do own your own actions and she didn't physically kill him, something feels wrong about not holding her fully responsible in this particular circumstance.

Hello; It seems that after some events we want someone alive to vent our anger against. I know this is not the same sort of thing, but use as example the killings that take place where the killers them selves die in the the attempts. The ones truly to blame are already dead, justly so. But many of us cast about for a target on which to vent our anger. In this case the girl is a logical target for that anger. As angry as the girls texts, phone calls and such may make us, in the ultimate analysis the boy made the final absolute decision.

he really didn't want to do it

Hello; This confuses me a bit. You say he really did not want to take his life, yet he did so.