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Inglorious said:
So that applies in every situation? Every state? Hawaii and Florida support that kind of action, what if you live elsewhere? What constitutes a situation where deadly force is necessary? I think that we all can agree that if someone is trying to shoot you then you're justified in shooting them, but what if you have a gun and they have a knife? A bat? Just their fists? Who's to say that you're not overreacting to the situation and are making it out to be a bigger threat than what it is? What I'm trying to say is that this needs to be considered in a case by case scenereo, there isn't a blanket rule that will apply to every situation everytime.
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All but two states allow CCW. I hope this map shows up.
http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ccw_map_2006.jpg

There are videos on youtube that I can't link here. Go to youtube and search this: "murder or self defense, you decide". That man was found not guilty. The man shot had no weapon. It's your basic right to defend yourself against what you believe to be "great bodily harm". The main difference is "stand your ground" states and "duty to retreat" states. I live in a duty to retreat state. This means I have the duty to retreat (if outside my home or business) if completely safe to do so before using deadly force. In Zimmermans case, and the video you are about to look up, They have the right to meet force with force... stand their ground. Thats how the laws are written, because if you try to look at it on a case by case basis, you can throw all laws out the window. There wouldn't be any base guidelines to follow. Chaos would ensue, and the system would be greatly abused by both sides. I can't say which I find more preferable, because duty to retreat is a great idea, but the right to stop someone who is charging you seems like a decision you should have the right to make, too. If the scenario in the video happened in my state, he would definitely be found guilty of manslaughter. Although, it is arguable that he was retreating when he blew the stop sign to flee the attacker.

Edit: I know it is an old map, but I don't think it has changed too much.
 
Goes to show how Iittle a humans life is worth. According to what was said you should only fire to kill even when a warning shot will do. Pathetic.


I hope she's released after her retrial so that both people walked away unharmed, as they shouldve


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ballinouttacntrol said:
Goes to show how Iittle a humans life is worth. According to what was said you should only fire to kill even when a warning shot will do. Pathetic.


I hope she's released after her retrial so that both people walked away unharmed, as they shouldve


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Im sorry that I value my life over some one else who is intent on doing me harm. I have a family to get home to. A warning shot can kill an innocent by stander and as you can see by the examples posted the law considers a warning shot to be use of deadly force just as shooting some one.

The point that you don't seem to understand is that a gun fired IS deadly force. You are more than welcome to fire off that warning shot but only when deadly force is needed. Just dont be too upset if the bad guy doesnt give you a warning shot or continues pounding your head into the sidewalk.
 
couldnt agree more with you Ballinouttacontrl..i dont wanna get into this argument because then ill spend alot of time typing up a bunch of stuff that probably wont be thoroughly understood...im sure if ANYONES SON, brother, etc, was killed(and unarmed) by someone about twice their size, would be upset and outraged...but ill stop here..i wish zimmerman got the death sentence
 
Oh I'm not trying to change anyone's mind chris.

I view it all scenario by scenario. Ive not once said Zimmerman should not have fired if he were being attacked. I have huge questions about what happen between the phone call and the gun being discharged. We all do. Some have just chosen to take zimmermans word. That's fine.

I look at things scenario by scenario and in the scenario we're currently discussing clearly the warning shot worked and stopped whatever was going on. I'm sorry that I don't feel the man should've died for losing his cool that night. I don't care what the law says on it. I'm talking person to person about how I feel about it, not how you interpret the law. Do you even have a mind or do you just brainlessly follow the law?

Ps. She fired at the ceiling in her own home. Hardly any danger to a by stander and if the attacker had continued in his path it's prob safe to assume she'd have shot him

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Lost his cool? He beat someone's head into the ground! Take his word? In the video YOU posted, you can see the cut on the back of his head. He was checked out on the scene... there are medical records. There was a witness who's story matches Zimmerman's. He could have very easily killed Zimmerman that night. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt. Lets say the next hit just knocked Zimmerman out. What would happen when Martin found his gun? Zimmerman didn't act appropriately?

I agree with you on the other one. She probably could have easily killed the guy if she wanted to. However, LEGALLY speaking, her warning shot constitutes unnecessary deadly force.

To answer your question, yes, I have a mind. I even use it frequently. However, when you take on the responsibility of carrying a weapon, you don't have much of a choice but to "mindlessly follow the law".
 
i been to prison i seen many underage killers so just cause the kid was underage dont just make him innocent for all we kno he could have been a gang banger out looking for trouble that night
 
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