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[spotfin]

Highly doubt this price would even come near the water, electric, and food bills along with other miscellaneous expenses that you spent to get your ray to that size. In short, they're small, yes, but they still don't look all that great, they're one of the most common if not the most common rays out. Theres really no profit in breeding these, even if you were only looking for money to cover the food bill. No way would I be willing to spend a dime over $50 on it. Anyways, think about it, if people cared so much about max size, most fish stores would run out of business LOL.

Not all ray keepers are in the hobby to make money.

 

[T1KARMANN]

A ray that maxes out at 11-13 inches across, breeds at as small as 4-5 inches across and has a beautiful, rust coloured pattern.

Definatley not the same as a "regular retic".

If this fish wasn't so delicate, it would be the most ideal ray for hobbyists.

if this so called red retic stays smaller than a normal retic then surely it should be classed as a different ray

lots of different fish have different colour morphs but still get to the same size

 

[sbrodacz]

if this so called red retic stays smaller than a normal retic then surely it should be classed as a different ray

lots of different fish have different colour morphs but still get to the same size

So it should be called a miniature retic? A full size puddle and and miniature puddle are still puddles.

 

[T1KARMANN]

mmmm so you compare a puddle to a ray

i have seen them labelled as dwarf rays before

some rays get bigger than others of the same breed just like some humans get bigger than others they are still humans you dont see smaller people called mini humans

this is still a retic and i think anyone would be crazy to pay more for one even if its labelled a dwarf ray

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

Not all ray keepers are in the hobby to make money.

Isn't he talking about making money? Sbrodacz did mention something about the pups bringing in decent prices. be willing to pay another r not,I would not be willing to pay 2-3 times the price of a retic to have one that grows an inch or 2 smaller than sual. The tank required would pretty much still be the same, I dont see a point.

 

[sbrodacz]

[/QUOTE]mmmm so you compare a puddle to a ray

i have seen them labelled as dwarf rays before

some rays get bigger than other of the same breed just like some humans get bigger than others they are still humans

this is still a retic and i think anyone would be crazy to pay more for one even if its labelled a dwarf ray

[/QUOTE]

A little slow are we? I wasn't comparing a ray to a dog, I was comparing how different species that are dfferen't sizes are still the same thing. First you say it should be classed as a different ray and then you say it's still a retic....

 

[coeus]

some rays get bigger than others of the same breed just like some humans get bigger than others they are still humans you dont see smaller people called mini humans

we call them midgets, or dwarves, or little people, there is still a segragation

red retics generally stay VERY small, but from what ive read, they have the same identifying features as a normal retic, except the redish tint, and the whole midget thing

 

[sbrodacz]

The one at the lfs must not be that young then. He's probably 8-9"

 

[Tom]

A ray that reaches 10-13 inches in diameter and up to 20-22 inches in tail versus one that reaches up to 18 inches in diameter and over 30 inches in tail, there is a huge difference there.

Not to mention they are from totally different locations. They may be "similar" but they are not the same.

The fact that they are found in completely different locations and do not come into contact with one another could also help to justify they are two completely different rays.

some rays get bigger than others of the same breed just like some humans get bigger than others they are still humans you dont see smaller people called mini humans

When you find a female brown retic that can breed at 4-5 inches, please let me know.

 

[sbrodacz]

A quote from the stingray source "Confusion: This species comes in a number of different variants, and is commonly referred to as the Reticulated Stingray. It comes in a wide range of color and patterns, but should all be treated as one species."