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[T1KARMANN]

i have 2 female p14 1 is much bigger than the other but they are the same age

the smaller one has had pups should she be classed as a dwarf p14 for me its just a normal p14 or should i double the price and call her a dwarf p14

 

[West1]

When you find a female brown retic that can breed at 4-5 inches, please let me know.

I had a W/C Red cauqueda Retic I got from Rapps on his last batch and she came in with a Pup in the bag and 2 more popped out about 2 weeks later. All premees.

She was 5" Dia (Dont know if this fits in the brown 4-5" female)

 

[spotfin]

Did any survive?

 

[Tom]

i have 2 female p14 1 is much bigger than the other but they are the same age

the smaller one has had pups should she be classed as a dwarf p14 for me its just a normal p14 or should i double the price and call her a dwarf p14

If she is from an a different area with other "dwarf" p14 like herself then perhaps she should.

This discussion keeps coming back to how much these rays should be worth.
Many people would love to have a ray that stays smaller than what is now commonly available. Not everyone can house an adult Motoro. I am not saying "double the price", but it would be fair to charge a decent price for a captive raised individual.

For anyone to say they are the same animal is wrong. Just because they have That is like saying a Henlei and a Leo are the same because they have white spots.

Red Caquetas come from completely different area, have a distinct color difference, max out at a much smaller size and mature at a very different pace. They are not the same ray as the commonly available brown retic.

 

[SpeshulEd]

mmmm so you compare a puddle to a ray

i have seen them labelled as dwarf rays before

some rays get bigger than other of the same breed just like some humans get bigger than others they are still humans

this is still a retic and i think anyone would be crazy to pay more for one even if its labelled a dwarf ray

A little slow are we? I wasn't comparing a ray to a dog, I was comparing how different species that are dfferen't sizes are still the same thing. First you say it should be classed as a different ray and then you say it's still a retic....

Actually, you weren't comparing a ray to a dog, you were comparing it to a puddle, as in a small pool of water, usually made from rain. A poodle would be the dog.

 

[West1]

Did any survive?

Nope. They were all under developed. But was pretty cool to see her go in labor. She kept shacking real hard (assuming they were contractions). Next morn there were little white slimers that looked like a Ray if you looked long enough and a little cute tail and 2 tiny eyes. Mouth was developed also. Maybe 1/2-3/4" Dia.

 

[aquaman45]

If she is from an a different area with other "dwarf" p14 like herself then perhaps she should.

This discussion keeps coming back to how much these rays should be worth.
Many people would love to have a ray that stays smaller than what is now commonly available. Not everyone can house an adult Motoro. I am not saying "double the price", but it would be fair to charge a decent price for a captive raised individual.

For anyone to say they are the same animal is wrong. Just because they have That is like saying a Henlei and a Leo are the same because they have white spots.

Red Caquetas come from completely different area, have a distinct color difference, max out at a much smaller size and mature at a very different pace. They are not the same ray as the commonly available brown retic.

Absolutely agreeTom,in particular the last paragraph.

 

[T1KARMANN]

If she is from an a different area with other "dwarf" p14 like herself then perhaps she should.

This discussion keeps coming back to how much these rays should be worth.
Many people would love to have a ray that stays smaller than what is now commonly available. Not everyone can house an adult Motoro. I am not saying "double the price", but it would be fair to charge a decent price for a captive raised individual.

For anyone to say they are the same animal is wrong. Just because they have That is like saying a Henlei and a Leo are the same because they have white spots.

Red Caquetas come from completely different area, have a distinct color difference, max out at a much smaller size and mature at a very different pace. They are not the same ray as the commonly available brown retic.

the color difference may just be something they eat lots of in the wild for example their main food may be blood worm which could keep the small and turn them red

whats to say this so called dwarf retic may not turn normal color after a year or 2 of different foods

it has already been said that feeding rays on just pellets MAY turn the spots yellow on black rays

can anyone show a picture of a so called dwarf retic that has been kept in captivity for 2 years or more

 

[Tom]

the color difference may just be something they eat lots of in the wild for example their main food may be blood worm which could keep the small and turn them red

whats to say this so called dwarf retic may not turn normal color after a year or 2 of different foods

it has already been said that feeding rays on just pellets MAY turn the spots yellow on black rays

can anyone show a picture of a so called dwarf retic that has been kept in captivity for 2 years or more

Some do tend to brown out after being in captivity for some time. I agree with you, something in their diet in the wild might have something to do with their color. I have seen larger ones that have retained their rusty red coloration into adulthood.

But the facts still remain that Red Caquetas become sexually mature at a much smaller size and reach a much smaller adult size than a common brown retic.

 

[spotfin]

Perhaps the red ones fetch a higher price because they are less common or the areas where they are collected are more remote.