Ah, what would Mayans and Tilaps and Jags and such be considered that are all over the canals down here?
Catching Wild Fish
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I just looked up the O on Florida Fish and wild life web page. sounds like they resemble wild-caught amazonian Os.
OSCAR
(Astronotus ocellatus) COMMON NAME - Oscar
DESCRIPTION - Young fish have wavy white and orange markings on black background; body and fins of adults with olive blue-green and mustard colors, highlighting large dark blotches, and a bright red eyespot at base of upper caudal fin; stout more oval body shape than native bream; some have orange or red markings and all have a thick mucus coat on the body.
RANGE – Most abundant in canals of water conservation areas and Everglades habitats of Collier, western Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties. Occurs throughout south Florida, but typically not as abundant as in marsh-related canals. Native range includes the Orinoco, La Plata, and Amazon river basins in South America.
HABITAT – Most successful in canals running through marsh habitats, although found in lesser numbers in coastal canals, ponds, and lakes in from central Florida southward.
SPAWNING HABITS – Spawning normally takes place on flat, solid surfaces when water temperatures warm to 82-91oF; female typically lays about 3,000 eggs and both parents occasionally seen guarding hundreds of young in shallow water along shorelines.
FEEDING HABITS - Feed primarily on small fish, insects, and crustaceans.
AGE AND GROWTH – Two-pound fish are considered large. The IGFA record caught in Florida was an exceptional fish reported to weigh 3.5 lbs; oscars caught in the Everglades average 10 inches and 3/4th of a pound; biologists do not know how long oscars typically live.
SPORTING QUALITY - Hard-fighting, panfish-type fishery; especially popular in water conservation areas of south Florida, where it ranks second in popularity only to largemouth bass; strikes a variety of baits including cut fish, cut shrimp, crickets, and worms; best artificial baits include small jigs tipped with cut bait and small spinnerbaits; flyfishing also productive; described as a boom and bust fishery since periodically experience major winterkills but when abundant, angler catch rates are exceptional; no bag or size limits.
EDIBILITY - White, flaky meat with good flavor.
STATE RECORD - State record is 2.34 pounds caught in Lake Okeechobee (see state records for updates).
Source:
http://floridafisheries.com/Fishes/non-native.html#oscar
OSCAR
(Astronotus ocellatus) COMMON NAME - Oscar
DESCRIPTION - Young fish have wavy white and orange markings on black background; body and fins of adults with olive blue-green and mustard colors, highlighting large dark blotches, and a bright red eyespot at base of upper caudal fin; stout more oval body shape than native bream; some have orange or red markings and all have a thick mucus coat on the body.
RANGE – Most abundant in canals of water conservation areas and Everglades habitats of Collier, western Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties. Occurs throughout south Florida, but typically not as abundant as in marsh-related canals. Native range includes the Orinoco, La Plata, and Amazon river basins in South America.
HABITAT – Most successful in canals running through marsh habitats, although found in lesser numbers in coastal canals, ponds, and lakes in from central Florida southward.
SPAWNING HABITS – Spawning normally takes place on flat, solid surfaces when water temperatures warm to 82-91oF; female typically lays about 3,000 eggs and both parents occasionally seen guarding hundreds of young in shallow water along shorelines.
FEEDING HABITS - Feed primarily on small fish, insects, and crustaceans.
AGE AND GROWTH – Two-pound fish are considered large. The IGFA record caught in Florida was an exceptional fish reported to weigh 3.5 lbs; oscars caught in the Everglades average 10 inches and 3/4th of a pound; biologists do not know how long oscars typically live.
SPORTING QUALITY - Hard-fighting, panfish-type fishery; especially popular in water conservation areas of south Florida, where it ranks second in popularity only to largemouth bass; strikes a variety of baits including cut fish, cut shrimp, crickets, and worms; best artificial baits include small jigs tipped with cut bait and small spinnerbaits; flyfishing also productive; described as a boom and bust fishery since periodically experience major winterkills but when abundant, angler catch rates are exceptional; no bag or size limits.
EDIBILITY - White, flaky meat with good flavor.
STATE RECORD - State record is 2.34 pounds caught in Lake Okeechobee (see state records for updates).
Source:
http://floridafisheries.com/Fishes/non-native.html#oscar
check my netting threads belowpcfriedrich;1859354; said:
miami trip
there is 2 o's in that thread
no clue why i didnt keep the smaller one i caught
oh well i can go back anytime
Robbwilder;1859368; said:I guess I should though I took the other post as already stated but my wording was wrong even though my intent wasnt. Ill leave it at that
I dont think I would transport any Tilaps though. Not worth the hassle if pulled over or walked up on. Enough interesting cichlids out there than them anyways. BTW thanks for the netting threads. I am hooked. Finally figured it out with the pole net.
and
lol
a nuisanceRobbwilder;1859404; said:
IGFA record caught O was 3.5 lbs. average O caught in everglades is 10 inches and 3/4lb. How big was the 3.5 lb O? 2 feet?
midnight;1859421; said:check my netting threads below
miami trip
there is 2 o's in that thread
no clue why i didnt keep the smaller one i caught
oh well i can go back anytime
and
lol
a nuisance
LOL. unless you're trying to collect aquarium fish. really, if you catch these invasive species (besides PBass), you should dispose of them in some way. Your LFS would probably be happy to take them. if nothing else, cut them up and use them for catfish bait. But releasing them back into the florida waters is the same thing as releasing fish from your home aquarium into the lake.
The jag wouldnt be a nuiscance to me. Just wish I had Your Ghetto/Redneck Pond set up again. I would have kept that one and the small Salvini. Just kept some mollies for my wife. Everytime we goto a pet store. I like those. There mollies dear they are a pain and they die.
pcfriedrich;1859435; said:
I am to the point with the Mayans. I kept throwing them at the cows the last time I went pole fishing.
and there are so many Mayans down here. I could fish them out and wouldnt even make a dent in the population. When I was netting last night. I must have pulled 100's of small babies out with the net.
they are here to staypcfriedrich;1859435; said:
no way killing them will help now
and they say dont release aquarium fish cus of diseases and "new" species
whats here is here
and no lfs wants anything from the wild,i tried lol
no way would i kill what i catch
just cant do it
jags suckRobbwilder;1859443; said:
mean and have tons of babies
them,mayans,and tilaps are going to take over fl,for real
midnight;1859464; said:jags suck
mean and have tons of babies
them,mayans,and tilaps are going to take over fl,for real
Then we should start an underground cichlid fish fighting group with jags Mayans and tilaps. It could be the whole east coast west coast deal. Would have saved michael vick a whole bunch of trouble
Robbwilder;1859467; said:Then we should start an underground cichlid fish fighting group with jags Mayans and tilaps. It could be the whole east coast west coast deal. Would have saved michael vick a whole bunch of trouble
I can only imagine that's how Jack Dempsey got his name.
