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[justonemoretank]

Wow, tough crowd.
BTW Tjend, if you don't quarantine them, it would be a good thing if you started to. Also, goldfish have something that inhibits fish growth, so it is good to try and ween your fish off of them.

LOL this is pretty much exactly what I said, and I provided links to articles and other information that will help him or her understand this. There's no reason not to be truthful. The sick Pacu he or she has doesn't care how sweet we are to the OP, because the Pacu is sick, and the OP needs to know why.

 

[Angler]

LOL this is pretty much exactly what I said, and I provided links to articles and other information that will help him or her understand this. There's no reason not to be truthful. The sick Pacu he or she has doesn't care how sweet we are to the OP, because the Pacu is sick, and the OP needs to know why.

Well, aren't you special. Maybe we can get you some sort of medal or something.

I hadn't read your reply and was responding to the following comments:

facepalm

I'm glad you found a cheaper way to get your fish sick.

good!

now u can use the money u saved to buy ur fish back after they die from internal parasites and malnutrition.

 

[justonemoretank]

Sorry, I assumed you had read the entire thread before responding. Either way, there's really no need to get nasty! But, maybe I do deserve a medal. I am incredibly special -- I'm surprised you were able to pick that up in only a few posts. Thank you!

 

[sostoudt]

so much tension in the forums now adays

 

[knifegill]

Sigworthy!

Sorry, I assumed you had read the entire thread before responding. Either way, there's really no need to get nasty! But, maybe I do deserve a medal. I am incredibly special -- I'm surprised you were able to pick that up in only a few posts. Thank you!

 

[justonemoretank]

Good to know.

 

[Tjend]

ok for all the comments i have quarintined them for now and if goldfish suck for feeders than what is better? i feed them pellets mainly, just feeders for the action.

Wasn't your tank infested with ich not too long ago? The Pacu you have is still ill, right? These are top reasons NOT to use feeders.

the reason i had ich was becuase i was out of town and the heater broke the water got pretty cold which lowered their immune system. and on top of all that one of my catfish died.it was rotting and the room smelt horrible when i got back, i thought i was lucky i didnt lose them all

 

[sostoudt]

ok for all the comments i have quarintined them for now and if goldfish suck for feeders than what is better? i feed them pellets mainly, just feeders for the action.

the reason i had ich was becuase i was out of town and the heater broke the water got pretty cold which lowered their immune system. and on top of all that one of my catfish died.it was rotting and the room smelt horrible when i got back, i thought i was lucky i didnt lose them all

i probably would feed guppies and crustaceans but i dont know much, i dont use feeders do to not wanting to take the time to quarintine. so i could be giving bad advise.

fathead minow/red rosies also have thiaminase.

 

[justonemoretank]

i feed them pellets mainly, just feeders for the action.

Well, they're your fish. If you get enjoyment out of watching them eat feeders, then you should feed them feeders. However, as has been discussed, feeding feeders opens your fish up to a host of problems which wouldn't even exist in your tank if you didn't feed them at all. So, it's really a question of how easy you want fishkeeping to be, and how healthy you want your fish to be, and what you want to get out of keeping fish.

Personally, I do have one fish who refuses to eat feeders. I can tell you that wasting a 55 gallon tank in order to QT feeders for a month at a time isn't something I enjoy. However, he only has one eye, and so he doesn't act like the others, and obviously doesn't think like the others.

I think that, as time goes on, you'll begin to weigh the trouble of feeding feeders in general against the thrill you apparently experience when they eat them, and your fish will eat fewer and fewer feeders. Because it's really just a pain.

Also, ich usually comes from somewhere. Therefore, it was introduced to the tank somehow, likely through not QTing something -- this could have been the fish you actually keep, or the feeders. I understand that there was a catastrophe surrounding the outbreak of the ich, but I think it's important to understand the parasite and where it comes from.

The only truly safe feeders are feeders you breed yourself, such as guppies or other livebearers, like Mollies.

 

[knifegill]

Right. If you feed tropical fish with feeders, feed them with tropical feeders. Almost any common tropical livebearer will do, though some produce more offspring than others. Just deworm them when you first establish the colony.