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nativelover;1570940; said:
No thanks. Palms, elbows, knees and steel toe boots are more efective;)
Ha ha yeah use what you have, i have head butt acouple of people while playing rugby, man do the fall fast, the next day there fat faced and purple:ROFL:
 
kusojijii;1571653; said:
not true, you can convert one way to the other but then it must be treated as such newly converted weapon.

I can take my GLOCK pistol, assemble it with a carbine conversion and it becomes a rifle and must be treated as such until unassembled back into a pistol, no permits are required to do so in my state.

That is the key, your STATEs laws, in California you can't do anything to a firearm to alter it if I am correct...

point in case: my friends converted AR15 pistol.

not his, but a pic I found:
MVC-001F.jpg

I did state I was off on the pistol to SBR conversion, I was wrong on that. You do need to do the paperwork and pay the tax before you do the conversion. To my knowledge you have to have the paperwork done and the tax stamp in hand before aquiring the parts for any conversion.

If your friend owns a pistol converted from an AR rifle it legally needs to be registered as an SBR, as it is a rifle reciever not a pistol reciever. AK and AR varient pistols are built from registerred pistol recievers to avoid being an NFA weapon.
 
Exactly, if one owned an AR lower that was registered as rifle and owned an ar upper that was less then 16" even if it was not on the lower...would be illegal.

Furthermore an AR or AK with a reciever registered as a pistol would be fine with the short barrel with no paperwork...just dont add a stock or foregrip!

I wonder what the feds say about a person who owns an AR pistol lower w/ matching upper plus other AR lowers registered as a rifle. Of course it would be an easy swap to put the pistol upper on the rifle lower...then again why would you...?
 
AKblue;1572213; said:
If your friend owns a pistol converted from an AR rifle it legally needs to be registered as an SBR, as it is a rifle reciever not a pistol reciever. AK and AR varient pistols are built from registerred pistol recievers to avoid being an NFA weapon.

you are correct, he put a pistol upper on the carbine lower & removed the stock.

the upper being the receiver/registered part
 
JD7.62;1572355; said:
I wonder what the feds say about a person who owns an AR pistol lower w/ matching upper plus other AR lowers registered as a rifle. Of course it would be an easy swap to put the pistol upper on the rifle lower...then again why would you...?

the lowers aren't regulated, you can buy one complete AR, get 5 different receivers and swap them out (some calibers need new lowers too)
 
kusojijii;1572427; said:
you are correct, he put a pistol upper on the carbine lower & removed the stock.

the upper being the receiver/registered part

Im used to AKs, I forgot about the way ARs are regulated.
 
No yall have it backwards...the lowers are considered firearms, the uppers are not. One can buy any and all types of uppers just as easy as buying a can of Coke. The lowers will need to be purchased just like any other gun in your state depending on if it is registered as a rifle or pistol.
 
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