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AKblue;1568749; said:
It is true, it is not legal to convert a pistol to a rifle or a rifle to a pistol. In order to legally posses an AK 47 pistol it has to be manufactured from a reciever that was never assembled as a rifle. So in order for the firearm in OP to be legal it would have to be made from a reciever that was never assembled as a pistol.

It is not legal to cut down or rebarrel any rifle/shotgun to under 16" and remove the stock to make it a pistol.

ETA: This is the law in the USA, laws in other country's will vary.
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I'm not talking about the legality of doing a conversion what I'm saying is by legal firearms definition you put a stock on a pistol it is legally classified a SBR, you take the stock off and chop the barrel on a rifle to under 16 inches it is legally classified as a pistol. (Leave the stock on it is an SBR) So yes you can make a pistol a rifle and you can make a rifle a pistol and you can make both an SBR...

Of coarse there are many laws involved with constructing these firearms as well as who is permitted to own them...
you cant convert a pistol to an SBR anymore than you can covert a rifle to a pistol.
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saying this however is not exactly true...
 
Polypterus;1568827; said:
I'm not talking about the legality of doing a conversion what I'm saying is by legal firearms definition you put a stock on a pistol it is legally classified a SBR, you take the stock off and chop the barrel on a rifle to under 16 inches it is legally classified as a pistol. (Leave the stock on it is an SBR) So yes you can make a pistol a rifle and you can make a rifle a pistol and you can make both an SBR...

Of coarse there are many laws involved with constructing these firearms as well as who is permitted to own them... saying this however is not exactly true...
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I was off on saying putting a stock on a pistol isnt legal, you just have to do the paperwork and pay for the tax stamp to register it as an SBR, before putting the stock on it. Hypotheticle question, is owning the stock for a Glock legal to own without the stamp? I ask because I cant own a full auto trigger set for an AK 47 because I own semi auto AK 47s without being in violation. The same as I cannot own a Glock sear because I own a Glock. With my firearms owning either would be intent to manufature an NFA weapon in the eyes of the BATF.

Saying something can be done without stating the legallities that go with it, is as irresponable in my eyes, as my saying you cant do them without stating the legallities that go with it. So I definently did not supply good information.

Turning a pistol or a rifle into a SBR without getting a tax stamp is a federal violation that could get you 10 years in jail and I believe a $10000 fine. However, to my knowledge, you cannot build a pistol from a reciever that was originaly built as a rifle. Please correct me if I am wrong.

As far as the firearm in the OP, how many Glock models can legally be made full auto with a sear?
 
Hypotheticle question, is owning the stock for a Glock legal to own without the stamp? I ask because I cant own a full auto trigger set for an AK 47 because I own semi auto AK 47s without being in violation. The same as I cannot own a Glock sear because I own a Glock. With my firearms owning either would be intent to manufature an NFA weapon in the eyes of the BATF.
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Owning a hunk of metal with springs and stuff is not illegal nor does it imply intent to manufacture a NFA weapon by owning them. I have several Parts sets of Full auto Ak's (and many other weapons including Heavy machine guns). And a number of legal Semi autos that I have had built or built myself from those parts keeping within legal guidelines. Owning a Full auto trigger set from an AK is not Illegal... it would only be so if you assembled it into a functional full auto receiver without permit and license.

On the glock you can not own that thing with an attached stock without a stamp and being registered. It is a SBR and NFA class 2. Just like you can not own a semiauto Krinkov AKSU with stock attached without the same stamp or going through a Class 3 dealer. It is NFA restricted.
You can however own the stock or conversion or parts without a stamp it just can not be attached to the gun or assembled into one...

The only exceptions to this is with C&R listed weapons (Curio and relic) in this case with a few firearms NFA does not apply with the possession of a C&R licence.. An example would be an original Artillery or navel P08 luger with the slab stock and 10 inch barrel. This is purely a collectible firearm (For god sakes one would cost well over a thousand dollars and is a priceless weapon).Other example exist as well ..
 
Polypterus;1570660; said:
Owning a hunk of metal with springs and stuff is not illegal nor does it imply intent to manufacture a NFA weapon by owning them. I have several Parts sets of Full auto Ak's. And a number of legal Semi autos that I have had built or built myself from those parts keeping within legal guidelines. Owning a Full auto trigger set from an AK is not Illegal... it would only be so if you assembled it into a functional full auto receiver without permit and license.
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Having a full auto trigger set and a semi auto AK according to the BATF is intent to manufacture, thus illegal to own both at the same time. It was one of the reasons the BATF investigated the Branch Davidian's. Ill try and find the reference. ETA: Ild just delete this but you might have allready quoted it. Yes the HK Sear is a NFA item so it isnt the same. Its the same as having an HK sear while owning the semi auto firearm it goes to. If you feel comfortable owning FA TGs with functioning rifles, good for you, I dont take the chance with the BATF changing the rules at their leisure.

Do you buy blanks for your recievers or fully assembled?
 
Liam;1565881; said:
population has a part to play in this...


Also, wear is all the percentages in Africa with all the car jackings and stuff... my teacher (He's south African) Had to have a .44 in the compartment on the door, Because he got jacked.
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You really are ignorant arent you? The stats were given in PERCENTAGES!
 
JD7.62;1570695; said:
You really are ignorant arent you? The stats were given in PERCENTAGES!
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It is possible to skew the stats by playing with the percentages. You are more likely to be stabbed to death in Canada or the UK than be shot in the USA.
 
AKblue;1570689; said:
Having a full auto trigger set and a semi auto AK according to the BATF is intent to manufacture, thus illegal to own both at the same time. It was one of the reasons the BATF investigated the Branch Davidian's. Ill try and find the reference. ETA: Ild just delete this but you might have allready quoted it. Yes the HK Sear is a NFA item so it isnt the same. Its the same as having an HK sear while owning the semi auto firearm it goes to. If you feel comfortable owning FA TGs with functioning rifles, good for you, I dont take the chance with the BATF changing the rules at their leisure.

Do you buy blanks for your recievers or fully assembled?
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Dude take the aluminum foil off your head......Having a FA trigger group and owning a Semi auto is not intent...It is owning some hunks of metal and a few springs. If you are legal and being legal in what you do who gives a crap if the ATF visits you? I usually like to go and visit them with questions just to make sure I'm clear with what I'm doing...

I'm not sure what you mean by blanks or assembled.. Most AK receivers are blanks... for a good build you really would not want them otherwise. It is a bit crazy how these simple guns really do tend to be very individual as you build them...I never had much luck with partial receivers on an AK build.. always end up spending too much time fixing things or doing slight alterations. On a blank everything usually goes quickly and predictably.
 
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