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[Liam]

I carry a gun for the same reason I have fire extinguishers in my home and business. I don't want to ever be in the situation where I must use them, but I am trained to use them and will to save my life or those around me.

the gun debate is one I see never being resolved, there is too much emotion on both sides of the argument. And since this forum as a community has members from all over the world with different governments and different cultures we will always have a wide spectrum of opinions on the subject. One thing we can all agree on is that the scumbags of the world probably never knew the joy of Monster Fish Keeping!

peace

 

[Liam]

I like how these statistics only take into account very small percentages of the world.. You telling me Africa is low on violent crime??? what about Asian countries or Latin America?



As for this statement....
You go to Star trek conventions don't you? A happy place where peace is everywhere and nothing of violence exists in life..you obviously do not live in the same world with the same reality as the rest of us do. Clearly you live a very isolated and privileged life.

Before you slap open that mouth of yours talking about "only in america" maybe you should first join the world community and see what the rest of us face. Join the real world dude, where you are at is not reality.

Some people (Worldwide) do need guns and Knives etc. to protect themselves and their families from assault. Do not fault them for that (regardless of nationality) fault this to this pathetic species of ours.

I live in the country, were none of this ---- happens.

 

[Liam]

I refer you to this http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2003/s1015505.htm

The news Like to exaggerate these things, and it was made in 2003.


But I stand corrected.

 

[AKblue]

FWIW, you cant convert a pistol to an SBR anymore than you can covert a rifle to a pistol.

The Glock 9mm is the model 19? So the full auto is the 19c I believe? I do like how they mention there is room for the sear in the conversion kit.

I dont need a lisence to carry concealed BTW.

 

[ShadowBass]

Liam, I'm really confused about what you're saying.

You're acting as if people in Australia never get assaulted or need to defend themselves.
Statistics say otherwise, and so does my personal experience. I've had several friends in Australia that have been assaulted before, and one woman that was actually stabbed and almost killed by one of her ex husband's friends.
Maybe you live in a locality where those type of things don't happen, but apparently some people do.
I'm not arguing for or against carrying a gun there, but you seem a bit misinformed or idealistic as to how human beings in general are.

I think in most countries the probability of a violent crime happening to you depends on the region in which you live, but it is possible anywhere. Some people are idiots.

 

[Militis]

Well the worst areas over here are Melbourne and Syndey they are pretty bad Perth is not to bad only certain people in my area like to cause fights but i am not going to say who i think that Australia is not the worst those stats are crap so yer only those 2 which are really bad.

 

[Liam]

Liam, I'm really confused about what you're saying.

You're acting as if people in Australia never get assaulted or need to defend themselves.
Statistics say otherwise, and so does my personal experience. I've had several friends in Australia that have been assaulted before, and one woman that was actually stabbed and almost killed by one of her ex husband's friends.
Maybe you live in a locality where those type of things don't happen, but apparently some people do.
I'm not arguing for or against carrying a gun there, but you seem a bit misinformed or idealistic as to how human beings in general are.

I think in most countries the probability of a violent crime happening to you depends on the region in which you live, but it is possible anywhere. Some people are idiots.

I'd never see it, and never have. I live in the country, and hardly every go to the city - where I expect to see it.

 

[ShadowBass]

I'd never see it, and never have. I live in the country, and hardly every go to the city - where I expect to see it.

Not saying crime is high over there, or what the probability of something happening there is (I don't live over there, afterall).

You just made it sound like Australia is some kind of utopia where violence never happens, and everyone loves each other, lol.

While I'm sure Australia is a great place, somewhere I'd actually like to go since my friends from there tell me about all the places to see, and the people seem quite nice, I know that people are still people and crime still happens over there *shrug*.

On the other hand, from this thread, foreigners may think that the U.S is just some crime ridden hell hole, and that's not the case either. Other than in large cities and certain areas it's very unlikely for something bad to happen to you here. Even in large cities it somewhat depends on where you live and what kind of position you put yourself in.
I grew up in what was considered a "bad" neighborhood in a large city and I felt pretty secure the majority of the time. Even at night when I went out alone I never got hassled.
So really, I just like to be prepared. There may be a small chance that something bad will happen to me, but that small chance could mean my life.

 

[Polypterus]

I'd never see it, and never have. I live in the country, and hardly every go to the city - where I expect to see it.

I hear dumb things like this on the news daily.. "I never though it would happen here...Maybe somewhere else but not here"

Thats a really dumb outlook on life because all it takes is once for you to be that victim....Does not matter where you live when your the one on the News that was just robbed, raped and dismembered....

FWIW, you cant convert a pistol to an SBR anymore than you can covert a rifle to a pistol.

Not true... You put a stock on a pistol it makes it a SBR and no longer a pistol. Likewise cut the stock off and knock the barrel on an AK to under 15 inches it is legally a pistol... Firearms laws are funny like this which is why you need to be careful about how you modify existing firearms.

 

[AKblue]

Not true... You put a stock on a pistol it makes it a SBR and no longer a pistol. Likewise cut the stock off and knock the barrel on an AK to under 15 inches it is legally a pistol... Firearms laws are funny like this which is why you need to be careful about how you modify existing firearms.

It is true, it is not legal to convert a pistol to a rifle or a rifle to a pistol. In order to legally posses an AK 47 pistol it has to be manufactured from a reciever that was never assembled as a rifle. So in order for the firearm in OP to be legal it would have to be made from a reciever that was never assembled as a pistol.

It is not legal to cut down or rebarrel any rifle/shotgun to under 16" and remove the stock to make it a pistol.

ETA: This is the law in the USA, laws in other country's will vary.