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I respect that. Disagree but at least you dont agree with Al gore. I can see some points, and im sure we arnt doing great for the earth but i dont believe the climate change is created by man.


On topic...........

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Citrinellus;4858771; said:
I don't believe in Al Gore's "Global Warming", I do believe we are having a negative impact on the earth.


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And if you don't then that means there is a kink in your chain which is affecting your whole pie.

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DavidW;4858783; said:
why won;t you answer my simple question?

because arguing with u is like paintballing random children. As fun as it may be, in the end there is no point and your just gonna get in trouble.

Ill be an eco hippy if im wrong. Ill do what all those that believe in the ridiculous theory of man made global warming should do. Disappear. Go live off the grid. Go live in a eco hippy house, wipe ur butt with ur left hand and a bowl of water, grow ur own veggies and only use renewable resources. Ill kill every cow i can find(you know thier farts help cause global warming) and wont raise my own meat. Thier animal poo poisons lakes and streams, thus helping cause global warming. Plus all animals fart

So, what are u gonna go do if your right??
 
Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4858807; said:
because arguing with u is like paintballing random children. As fun as it may be, in the end there is no point and your just gonna get in trouble.

Ill be an eco hippy if im wrong. Ill do what all those that believe in the ridiculous theory of man made global warming should do. Disappear. Go live off the grid. Go live in a eco hippy house, wipe ur butt with ur left hand and a bowl of water, grow ur own veggies and only use renewable resources. Ill kill every cow i can find(you know thier farts help cause global warming) and wont raise my own meat. Thier animal poo poisons lakes and streams, thus helping cause global warming. Plus all animals fart

So, what are u gonna go do if your right??
I already said I'll buy a hummer, do wheelies and donuts in it and light a tyre bonfire
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My point is; if I am wrong there are only good consequences for all, but if you are wrong there are only negative consequences for us all.
You seem to be saying that arguing with me is pointless because you have no valid argument. You have yet to produce any data.
If you think paintballing random children is fun then I fear for your sanity, as that would be the activity of a sociopath .
Thanks at least for answering.
Have a great w/e
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I think mankind oftens gives itself too much credit. Now, I do agree we do have an impact on our environment, but in the total scope, I believe we are an insignificant part of Earth's evolution. I mean, seriously, if the North Pole decides to head south or if millions of square miles of ice sheets decide to melt, there's no a lot we can do to stop it. Yes, we can help prevent accelerating the problem, but remember, this is a pretty big rock we think we can control.

I believe the bottom line is, people are scared. We always have been. It goes back to...it's always easier to believe bad than it is to believe good. Humans are "doomsdayers" by nature. History documents this.

Back on topic...yeah, the weather seems weird lately. But, I remember some pretty damn cold, snowy days when I was growing up! And I remember my Dad and even my Grandpa telling me stories of huge blizzards and frigid cold. I am sure we've all heard something like "the blizzard of '42" or something along those lines. I also remember 3 years ago, we didn't get much snow here in Omaha and the winter was pretty mild. And I know for a fact, the winter here last year was horrid compared to even this "tough" winter.

Looking back, world wide, the "hottest day" recorded temperatures range from the 1910's in North America and Africa up to 2010 in Asia and Europe. The "coldest day" records range from 1890s in Asia, 1910s in Europe and more recent years in the Americas. I don't think we can take a few weeks of bad weather and say there's a trend.

Also, we have to remember when we do compare modern day weather analysis and compare it to just 50 years ago for example, how accurate is the data? Yeah, I am sure the recorded temp is correct, but weather patterns? OK, go back 100 years ago, then 200...10,000. We tend to lump Earth's history into the experiences and span of our own lifetime. This planet has been through more climate changes over the centuries than we can even imagine. (By the way, how could we possibly know the temperature of the North Pole 2,000 years ago?)

I used to go into the city and think "man, we are really messing this planet up". All you can see is towering columns of steel, concrete and glass. There are miles and miles of asphalt...and all the other stuff you find in a large city. But, then I started flying. It always amazes me when I look down from 3,000-15,000 feet up and see how insignifcant we really are. We aren't the "global masters" that we tend to believe.

Now, I don't mean to sound like such a defeatiest or pessimist...I do think there are things we can do and I think there are things we ARE doing. But, it bugs me to no end knowing that people can put so much emphasis on weather patterns and global climate when there are so MANY things wrong in this world we can fix with the skills, knowledge and tools we already have. People are starving, over-crowded, neglected and abused. I guarantee you these people aren't worried one bit about oceanic currents and jet streams. The wealthy (meaning anyone who is not struggling) don't have to worry about feeding their family today, tomorrow, etc. But, just like impoverished families, they do worry about their future. In their case though they worry about global warming, rogue asteroids and solar storms. So, in a way, we're all worrying about our future...but to what degree determines who we are in society.

This post has gone on way too long and I still have tons to say :) But, I will sum up by saying yes, we need to continue to study human impact on the environment, we need to support committees and organizations investigating and implementing measures to lessen our impact and we need tougher laws and have the courage to enforce them when they are ignored. But...as a "species", we shouldn't make it a priority when so many of our own kind have no hope of a future no matter what's in store for planet Earth.

In my mind, there's no reason to worry about the roof when the foundation is already crumbling.

As always, just my $0.02...
 
Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4858754; said:
If yall believe in man made global warming so much then do us all a favor. get off the grid. go live in a cave using nothing but renewable resources.

Disappear. Plz!! if your so right then you need to do something about it.

How do you know some of us aren't doing something about it? It's not about who's right or wrong, it's about taking responsibility for our own actions, wether we are actually impacting the earth negatively or not. We do alot of things as a human race that have a negative impact on our environment and just summing it all up to a hoax doesn't help solve anything at all.

I respect the opinions on both sides of the equation and I don't know for sure that we do have an impact on global warming, but what if we do? I'd rather live my life thinking we do and trying to make a difference as opposed to saying people they are crazy for thinking " maybe some of the things humans do impact our earth in a negative way".

I really hope we don't have an effect, but most science supports the opposite.......

And either way, something is causing it. If it's not us, then what is it? What is the alternate theory?
 
CLDarnell;4858884; said:
(By the way, how could we possibly know the temperature of the North Pole 2,000 years ago?)

The summer water temperatures, reconstructed from the makeup of tiny organisms buried in sediments in the Fram strait, have risen from an average 5.2 degrees Celsius (41.36F) from 1890-2007 and about 3.4C (38.12F) in the previous 1,900 years.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/31/arctic-current-warmest-in_n_815468.html



Here's how they figured it out for 50 million years ago
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060601091313.htm

http://www.physorg.com/news68305951.html
 
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