Cool beginner fish for a 90 gallon display tank?

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Thats not what I was saying...I just saw a couple things that I thought were dangerous potential combos.

Consider feeding when you consider stocking. I will tell you this...the groupers feed SUPER aggressively. They will be hand trained before you know it. So will your triggers. Puffers arent as fast as either, and eels are benthic. This creates problems. When I used to target feed my mixed pred reef...the grouper would steal food from other fishes mouths.

In a 90 I would have to recommend a smaller eel. You can get away with a lot with eels, but I just feel bad not being able to let them stretch out. A snowflake would be a good choice.

Lots of triggers are mean...even my niger picks on my panther grouper. Nigers are supposedly the most peaceful ones you can get. Everyone is going to have issues...and everyfish is different. Get a smaller, peaceful one, and cross youf fingers.

Same goes with puffers. Get one big enough to be able to hold its own, and I would introduce it first. This gives it a chance to get established and also probably hand trained which will help it compete for food.

I would steer clear of the tobies in a tank like this...not big enough in my mind to play with the big boys.

Its going to come down to adding the fish in the right order, picking the size and temperament of your fish carefully, and just watching for any potential compatibility issues as they arise.

Sorry if that was really broad...but we are talking about a LOT of different fish here.
 
Snowflake eels still get quite large, as thick as my wrist. Do you really think a fish that large or even a grouper or adult trigger for that matter, would fit in a 90?
 
Pufferpunk;4499195; said:
Snowflake eels still get quite large, as thick as my wrist. Do you really think a fish that large or even a grouper or adult trigger for that matter, would fit in a 90?

seriously? They're rated for like 50 gallons on liveaquaria and blue zoo. My wife kept one in a 55g.

All fish are too large for all aquaria. That doesn't keep any of us from keeping them does it? I think the goal is to allow them to have enough room for a good quality of life. I think a 20-30 inch MAX adult length eel would be fine in a 48x18x24 tank with some good hardscape. I'm no expert but that's what my instincts are telling me.
 
Expect to be doing some HUGE WC with that kind of bioload. Hope you can afford the $alt.
 
Pufferpunk;4499212; said:
Expect to be doing some HUGE WC with that kind of bioload. Hope you can afford the $alt.

alright well you guys are the experts. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Marine is lame. You can't keep anything but damsels unless you have a 400 gallon tank. This is ridiculous. I'm selling this thing and buying more freshwater stuff.
 
Diogenes;4499215; said:
alright well you guys are the experts. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Marine is lame. You can't keep anything but damsels unless you have a 400 gallon tank. This is ridiculous. I'm selling this thing and buying more freshwater stuff.

LMFAO. Sorry...

I know lots of people that have kept snowflakes in smaller tanks. 90 I think would be just about right.

I think that SW tanks are generally understocked. Then again, I do frequent, big h2o changes. You have to keep up with the work, and make sure that your system can handle the load its given.

Stock slowly, and sparingly. As it comes together you can be more bold. Like I said before though, with these kinds of large preds, I feel that a speices tank would be most suitable.
 
sorry that last statement didn't make any sense. What I meant to say was all aquaria are too small for all fish. If we really wanted to do the fish a favor we would let them stay in the wild rather than in tiny glass boxes.

Nevertheless this is incredibly frustrating.

Now i see the appeal of reef tanks. If you can't keep any fish in your tank you might as well grow pretty rocks.
 
You could keep the moray, a trigger, and puffer. Maybe a leaf fish on the bottom too, if you started with smaller animals. Saltwater can handle a lot more bio load than freshwater, people in saltwater are just smarter and more cautious here. They invest a lot of money and don't want to see it perish. I on the other hand push to the limit. You should just go buy your puffer and slowly add on to it. You will see the limit in your water tests, and visibly see how much you can stock. Trust me it wont be an empty tank by any means. Don't lose the excitement, until you have at least one fish in there.


The f8 was moved to another tank more suitable, he just had to be acclimated due to a broken tank :(. But he did make some good buddies for a little while.
 
Ashlee;4499255; said:
You could keep the moray, a trigger, and puffer.

If this is true and the tank size police don't object I suppose I could handle that. I considered doing a wet pet setup with a larger growing trigger. I guess that would be my last resort. Seems like a lot of trouble and expense. I hope these fish have as much personality as everybody says.
 
Diogenes;4499247; said:
sorry that last statement didn't make any sense. What I meant to say was all aquaria are too small for all fish. If we really wanted to do the fish a favor we would let them stay in the wild rather than in tiny glass boxes.

Nevertheless this is incredibly frustrating.

Now i see the appeal of reef tanks. If you can't keep any fish in your tank you might as well grow pretty rocks.
:ROFL: to the last part

but dont let them get you down (fleshy you are cool :) )
just get the fish you want man, be reasonable tho.
i have a 90 bowfront with a snowflake. the trut his most max sizes of fish are never reached in aquaria anyways (that doesnt mean post a pic of a giant snowflake either). they just like throwing big numbers to scare you into gettin damsles
 
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