crazy BD prices
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why pay that price then when you have your own breeding going one
i find i hard to understand if captive breeders are breeding their own rays why do they need to import wild rays to sell
import to increase your gene pool yes but for profit reasons i just cant understand the logic
the same captive breeders who were saying captive bred rays do much better than wild caught are are now importing wild caught to sell
i find i hard to understand if captive breeders are breeding their own rays why do they need to import wild rays to sell
import to increase your gene pool yes but for profit reasons i just cant understand the logic
the same captive breeders who were saying captive bred rays do much better than wild caught are are now importing wild caught to sell
Its a business for most not a hobby. The point of any business is to make money.
If buyers stopped paying the freaking high prices, then importers would stop selling them at high prices, then the importers would stop buying them at high prices, then the exporters would stop selling them at high prices. It all boils down to the end consumers. I do not see why any one other then big breeders would pay the same for a wc vs cb though as the prices are getting VERY close.
If buyers stopped paying the freaking high prices, then importers would stop selling them at high prices, then the importers would stop buying them at high prices, then the exporters would stop selling them at high prices. It all boils down to the end consumers. I do not see why any one other then big breeders would pay the same for a wc vs cb though as the prices are getting VERY close.
csx4236;2584204; said:
if you are saying their is no profit in captive bred rays then why invest so much money and time in a large scale project like you have
i know you now going to fire back at me because you love the rays and thats the main thing
all I'm saying is someone is making a killing hear but it wont be long lived as their are not many people willing to pay 10000 euros on a ray
their is a recession on at the moment and spending 10000 euros on a ray is the last thing on peoples minds buying rays at that price is a luxury not a necessity
if people are importing lots of rays at a very high price then they are going to make a loss as the demand for a 10000 euro ray is just not their right now
Of course I am not saying there is no profit in CB rays, only saying that it is very expsensive when start a program with many non-mature animals and have to wait for them to start breeding and at same time try buy more stock to improve your program. Just saying it's VERY EXPENSIVE while you wait for all your stock to mature and start breeding. Some of us breeders were not ready with large stock when the ban went into effect so we did not produce on a large enough scale for first few years. It takes 5+ year to get a program going and have it pay for itself.
csx4236;2584249; said:
2.5 years to breed p14
its not hard to breed rays if i can do it anyone can
the price of some rays is already crashing you can buy captive bred pearls for £750
captive bred leos for 1200-1500 euros
why would anyone want to spend 10000 euros on a wild BD that could have a number of health problems of a hook stuck in its gut
makes no sense to me as already stated for 10000 euros you could fly over pick your own ray stay in a 5 star hotel travel around in a limo and still have change from 10000 euros
The email T1KARMANN talks about in the first post was sent out by someone I had approached in England to ask around if anyone was interested in BD or eclipse Leos. In his enthousiasm he sent out a mailing with a pic of a BD out of my private collection, I was not happy with this but whats done is done.
We are selling the BD's and Eclipses for 6.000,- to 10.000,- depending on size quality and quantity. They will be in quarantaine for a month and will not leave untill they are in superb condition. We need to uphold these prices for these beautiful rays otherwise it is not worth the hassle.
We are selling the BD's and Eclipses for 6.000,- to 10.000,- depending on size quality and quantity. They will be in quarantaine for a month and will not leave untill they are in superb condition. We need to uphold these prices for these beautiful rays otherwise it is not worth the hassle.
Mark Huveneers;2584404; said:
What is the difference between a 6,000 on and a 10,000 one?
Pretty good profit margin there I would assume?
Thats a ridiculous amount of money for a fish. I know the rarity etc... but come on thats just too much,
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