Crenicichla Punctata "Valentines"
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fishfarm;2143220; said:
Speaking for collecting in Brazil. http://www.cichlidae.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4716&p=28246#p28246
WOW! I missed that one! Getting caught up in the politics I think is the worst possible scenario.
Ray
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Ken; thanks for the link....and;
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by Ken Davis on Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:42 pm
The Brazilian government takse Bio-piracy very seriously. All you have to do is get the permits to be legal, Don't buck the system and you won't have this happen to you. get the permits to be legal, Don't buck the system and you won't have this happen to you."
You are so right......
The IBAMA and the brazilian government have what they call a "black list" with more than 50 names of foreigners collectors....and they share that list with other countries in South America.......so....we can like it or not....we can discuss it how much we want ....but ....the (sadly) fact is that the illegal collecting only makes harder laws for us who work with it and have the collecting as we say; "for living" and not just for fun!
Anyway...I am very glad that Uruguay, still allows my clients (through my permission from the Ministry) to keep and bring back home an special amount of fishes.... but I hope people can understand the situation and realize that our governments are very serious with this problem....we are in 2008....not 1492!!
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by Ken Davis on Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:42 pm The Brazilian government takse Bio-piracy very seriously. All you have to do is get the permits to be legal, Don't buck the system and you won't have this happen to you. get the permits to be legal, Don't buck the system and you won't have this happen to you."
You are so right......
The IBAMA and the brazilian government have what they call a "black list" with more than 50 names of foreigners collectors....and they share that list with other countries in South America.......so....we can like it or not....we can discuss it how much we want ....but ....the (sadly) fact is that the illegal collecting only makes harder laws for us who work with it and have the collecting as we say; "for living" and not just for fun!
Anyway...I am very glad that Uruguay, still allows my clients (through my permission from the Ministry) to keep and bring back home an special amount of fishes.... but I hope people can understand the situation and realize that our governments are very serious with this problem....we are in 2008....not 1492!!
You are correct Felipe, There are right ways to collect and wrong ways, Heiko has made a name for himself by his past practices and the Brazilian government was watching him and waiting for this to happen, smuggle wildlife and pay the price. If more people would follow the laws and get correct permits then the governments would not feel they have to go to these kind of drastic measures. I believe Heiko and his wife are in serious trouble in Brazil. Ken
Ouch!! That sucks! LOL!! Play with fire, you get burnt.
Even a collecting trip to Columbia or Peru would be cool!! Crenicichla a plentY!
I'm surprised there aren't more Crenicichla vittata collected on the trips. They are GORGEOUS pikes for sure!!
Ken, hahaha!! I use the grey skin, pretty easy for me to see pretty much any color. The light skin SUCKS!!
Even a collecting trip to Columbia or Peru would be cool!! Crenicichla a plentY!
I'm surprised there aren't more Crenicichla vittata collected on the trips. They are GORGEOUS pikes for sure!!
Ken, hahaha!! I use the grey skin, pretty easy for me to see pretty much any color. The light skin SUCKS!!
"I'm surprised there aren't more Crenicichla vittata collected on the trips. They are GORGEOUS pikes for sure!! "
Oh yes!
A lot of vittata in north east ARGENTINA and north west URUGUAY...Ken, the other guys and I are going to Salto in december and I hope we find some!
How many do you want??
Oh yes!
A lot of vittata in north east ARGENTINA and north west URUGUAY...Ken, the other guys and I are going to Salto in december and I hope we find some!
How many do you want??
