"Designer" Cichlids

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Flower, certainly, by definition once offered for sale a fish is a commodity. I was using the term in a metaphoric negative sense.



Matt, the Stendker discus issue is a great point in that is exemplifies the advantage of tank breds over wild caughts. Contrary to what seems to be a popular opinion, a tank bred should be MORE valuable to the average guy (i.e. non-retailer) who wants a healthy and hardy fish.

(Currently googling Kerfluffle! Hahahaha!)
 
I think 'status symbol' might nail it on the head. I do agree that often times this is what certain fish are to some. When staring into your tank becomes like staring into the mirror, a narcissist you have become.
 
dogofwar;4061230; said:
Having a provenance on wild-type stock is important less for bragging rights and more for maintaining the authenticity of wild-type strains of fish.

Matt
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I agree. I feel the only reason I should buy a wild fish is if I have intentions on breeding them. But does that mean that anyone who does otherwise is wrong, and has no business keeping wild fish? If I see someone with a single F0 Lyonsi, and they have no intentions of breeding it, only keeping it as a show fish, it might bother me a bit, but it doesn't mean they are not entitled to do that.

And it's rather annoying to see threads with complaints and critique on things that bother you all the time. I guess I should go make a thread about that huh?
 
cchhcc;4061238; said:
Matt, the Stendker discus issue is a great point in that is exemplifies the advantage of tank breds over wild caughts. Contrary to what seems to be a popular opinion, a tank bred should be MORE valuable to the average guy (i.e. non-retailer) who wants a healthy and hardy fish.

(Currently googling Kerfluffle! Hahahaha!)
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Just as some asian hybrid cichlids called flowerhorns can cost more than almost any wild SA/CA cichlid. Different vendors cater to different audiences. I'm sure you can find just as beautiful of a flowerhorn bred by some kid in your town, but for some odd reason the fh labeled from Thailand will be much more "exciting", not to mention expensive. Maybe because Thailand has made a name for themselves as distributing top quality fh's. This doesn't mean you can't find just as nice a specimen at your lfs though.
 
cchhcc;4061140; said:
I think the comment about the certain sellers representing quality is a good one, but that's more of interest to the buyer than the viewer of the thread. Plus, given the relative absence of any critical reviews of sellers on the forum all we end up with an unbalanced picture of quality.

Plus, at the end of the day, a picture of a juvenile cichlid is just a picture of potential in my opinion. I'm impressed with growth threads, show results, etc. that exhibit a keepers ability to successfully fill the needs of a fish over time, not just his ability to buy one only to lose it in a few months out of boredom (or worse).

Caribemob, I wasn't trying to be subliminal or deceptive with this thread. Posting specifics or calling people out would simply be rude.
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its not the fish chris has a problem with its the vendor , but which one other people on here want to know. Bottom line is I never thought this members on this site would actually be upset about people posting there fish and where they got it from, People are happy that the vendor they got there fish from sold them the fish they wanted, and the size and price that they agreed on. People been doing this with all types of vendors ,
 
For me knowing which vendor a fish came from can help me to know if I'm getting a good bloodline or one that has been problematic. I also would know from experience whether one is known for selling hybrids or not. Knowledge that can help me decide if I want to buy from that vendor. I don't think mentioning a fish as an ** fish is helpful because we all know it comes from **. Getting info that a fish came from what amounts to a subcontractor of **'s isn't helpful in my book. FYI, this is in no way a reflection on **. It'd be the same if someone posted they got the fish from ****. It's a ** fish. I hope this makes sense. In some situations I'd like to know the provider but don't care that much.
 
so does RAPPS catch his own fish and sell them or does he get his fish from suppliers too? So why should this be o.k for people to say umbies from Jeff Rapps?
 
my orange heads, raised by **, are genetially superior to all others, no big deal ;)
 
Knowing who was responsible for shipping and handling the fish is important! I think that this is the point of the thread: forget bragging rights- when you receive prompt customer service, good prices and healthy fish it's nice to let others know who's providing it so that they can get the same. And shouldn't we be so lucky as to know who our supplier's, supplier is. Better to know they came from **- who is published, operates facilities in Central and South America, is contracted to collect legally for research and conservation in places where others can't, and has been doing this for decades- than some yuck-a-puck in the land of non-disclosure who imports festae from Hong Kong.
 
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