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ewok;3180187; said:
i appreciate the thought you guys have put into this and the advice you are giving me. i promise i'll come out of this a better person.

thanks for listening to a broken hearted fool...


You always learn throughout life. No big bro. I will say if she's going to say "bye-bye" in person then she has some real guts. Most girls/people in general would reserve that to email/messaging.

From what it sounds it might go bad. But again what's meant to be is meant to be. World has a way of working things that are supposed to be out. Always try to stay positive. If it turns into a lengthy explaination about why she's saying bye then IMO you'll want to explain yourself a little. But be direct if you do. If it's short and sweet then maybe just keep it short.
 
ewok;3180020; said:
we went to a concert, and afterwards she told me she was going to a friend's brother's birthday party.

She's either seeing someone else or she had a change of heart about you. Either way, whatever there might have been romantically, it's over, imo. Tell her you've figured it out, and thank her for the fun times. Leave it at that.
 
i think it's cuz in my little episode on saturday, i was no different from the other insecure, possessive guys of her past relationships.

once you've been there and seen that... it gets tiring... i was too emotional to reign in my feelings.

thanks guys... in 40 minutes it's over.
 
ewok;3180272; said:
i think it's cuz in my little episode on saturday, i was no different from the other insecure, possessive guys of her past relationships.

once you've been there and seen that... it gets tiring... i was too emotional to reign in my feelings.

thanks guys... in 40 minutes it's over.

Dude, your reaction on saturday was not that far from being justified. Would you have told her after the concert "Hey see ya later, I'm going to a buddy's party"? Had I been in your shoes, I would have been upset. From what I can see, you were left at the curb.
 
Well I'm sure you're gone now. But what I think you should do is tell her in a matter of fact way (no mush & gush) how you feel about her. Nothing you said at 'coffee' is going to make a difference today. But she's going to think about it over the next week.
I'm a female in my 40's and have been married 20 yrs-so my opinion might not count lmao! I used to hate the mushy stuff. But if some guy would've told me, "Look, I really like you a lot & it's going to be hell on me not going out anymore" just in a regular voice-no real emotion-I'd have fallen for it.
 
you didnt mess up at all. it happens to a lot of us. its not bad to show the girl your sensitive side. she probably appreciates it since it shows her that youre not hanging out with her only for her body. its just that most girls can only handle so much of it before they get turned off by it. every girl is different so theyll react differently in different situations so its nearly impossible to read their thoughts simply by their tone of voice,facial expression, body language,lack of communication, etc. From what i have read it seems like you told her that you liked/loved her 2 weeks ago. She might not be interested in a serious relationship for whatever reason and maybe just wants to hang out with you simply because she enjoys hanging out with you. why else would she take time out of her schedule to hang out with you? You have to give these things lots of time. 36 hours may seem like a long time to you but you got to be more patient if you want to make things work out. She might have felt pressured and said something she didnt want to say. You felt that she texted you back only because she felt like she was forced to. your feelings were probably right. People in general, do not like to spend time with clingy, needy, emotional, insecure people whether it be a lover or best friend. Chances are shes part of that group. Im sure you know what i mean already. You just need to get your head clear cuz you obviously like/love her a lot and youre thinking about it way too much. i would suggest you go do something that makes you happy and relaxed whether it be a running a few miles or drinking a few brewski's with your friends. You want to be mentally positive/calm/ready before you start hanging out with her again so that you dont spill again. Believe me, i know how hard it is to stay cool when feelings are involved but it is what it is. Good luck man.
 
yo man gl with that. life is full of challenges that u have to get through and when/if u get through them u will become a better person. i might not know what im talking about since im only 16 but i think i have an idea of what life holds for all of us. if she doesnt want to hang out with u anymore, then so be it. just move on. u can always find someone better
 
hey everyone. thanks for the really great advice. i went and met up with her, and i guess i went in just with the worst case scenario in mind. i went in with an open mind, some semblence of confidence (albeit rather subdued... maybe quiet dignity was the right word) and just let things take their toll. i thought a lot about what i should say or do as i was walking there, but in the end, before i left work i just wrote down this poem she sent me a few weeks ago, before we got together. it was something she sent me cuz i was feeling down. ironically i was feeling down because of her, but she had no idea at that time. in my mind i was thinking about how i should mention that poem in the event that the worst case scenario came, but i'm glad i went in and let fate do her job...

so i went there, expecting the worst, and got myself a drink and just sat outside looking at the world around me, praying to god one last time to give me this second chance i really wanted. not just cuz i wanted to see her again, but more importantly so that she can see me for who i felt i truly was, and not that silly person who made no sense 36 hours ago. she came and we sat and just small talked. she looked at me quizically at first, and was like 'is everything ok?'. i just looked at her and i said quietly 'i feel terrible for what happened on saturday. it was not right of me to behave like that.' she looked at me and laughed a bit and asked me if i was still troubled by that. i told her again that i was out of line, and i felt terrible for what happened. she then told me she hadn't thought about it since. all the time i was thinking to myself - 'she's just being nonchalant before dropping the bomb'. but we proceeded to talk about normal stuff, about work, about what we did the weekend after the concert.

we ended up walking to this sports store to buy an exercise heart rate monitor thing for jogging. she was looking for one and i told her there was a sports store a few blocks away, and we just went there and looked around and she eventually brought something. we also went to the grocery store and she got some detergent. all this time, i was feeling a bit better as the time went on and i kept telling myself to just be cool, be yourself to the extent you can, but inside my head and heart i was still waiting for the bomb to drop. still waiting for those last couple of word 'hey, thanks for meeting up... there's something that i think we should talk about...'

but thankfully those words never came.

after buying her stuff, i walked her back to her car where we said out good byes, and went off on our ways. almost like before all this happened.

right now you have no idea how relieved i am. i don't think i am out of the woods by any means, but i feel like i've been given a second chance at this. i may sound all gushy and what not, but i don't really care. sometimes when you are given a second chance at something that you really didn't think you had a hell's chance at, you start looking at things differently. i know i've changed my mindset a lot from 36 hours ago as crazy as it sounds. the me from 36 hours ago was not much different from the guy who experienced heartbreak in the past, but for some reason never learned that much from it. i took a deep, hard look at myself this weekend. aided by some good friends who offered not only a listening ear, but a firm voice of reason and logic that made me want to come out of this as a better person. i am not afraid to admit i started searching up online about helping to build self confidence, self esteem, and listening to some clips on youtube about all this. i have also wrote down a bunch of stuff i believe will help me come out of this, whether it's just by myself, or hopefully still with her. i felt i owed it to myself at the very least to stop the cycle of feelings, mentalities that were preventing me from growing as a person, and even though i am 28, as the saying goes 'you can still teach an old dog new tricks'... and heck, i'm only a 4 year old dog in that case so there's still plenty of time.

in any case... i'm hoping that this second chance is here to stay. i feel relieved that what i was fearing to hear the most didn't come and i certainly am not going to make those same mistakes again.

i don't really have any words of wisdom to impart on anyone, but i guess if there is anything i've gotten out of this episode, it's that if you really want to make a change, you are your own agent, your own catalyst. sometimes it take unpleasant events to wake you up, to relook your life. and hopefully when you are given that second chance you embrace it and come out willing to be a better person from it.

have a good night everyone.
 
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