Did this cop do the right thing?

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Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4217948; said:
Forgot to add something. Most of u guys are not law enforcement or firefighters. When u work in the public eye you are held to a diff set of rules and a dif standard. I have did CPR on people we knew were dead. why? because we had to make it look good. He needs to realise that he is in the public eye.
i work with the police and the main problem with new cops is they are scared of there own shadow
he done what he felt was needed and was in his full right to do so i dont see the big problem
if an officer has his personal space violated in an aggressive manor be it man or woman he has the right to stop them anyway needed.

the only thing worse that this is people who attack fire fighters it happens around every 2 days here it makes me sick thinking of the filth that inferst this country attack the people who are just trying to help
 
Id have punched her for him if Id been there. You dont put your hands on an officer end of story. Especially when hes already involved in a conflict. He could have handled it differently true but the fact of the matter is that woman needed to be punched.
 
Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4217948; said:
Forgot to add something. Most of u guys are not law enforcement or firefighters. When u work in the public eye you are held to a diff set of rules and a dif standard. I have did CPR on people we knew were dead. why? because we had to make it look good. He needs to realise that he is in the public eye.

I totally agree with you! :headbang2

I had to do CPR on a SIDS patient once in front of a crowd of people in the park. When the ambulance came and loaded the patient, i still continued to do CPR. When we got far enough from the crowd it was time to stop. We already knew the infant was gone but i still had to do it because it was in the eye of the public and it helped the family a little. Well to fully understand me...you just need to be a fire fighter to know.
 
While he shouldn't have punched her, it did work. And his training is anything to protect himself and the law. Yes he could have done something else as stated, but hey it worked. I am sure this is a great learning lesson for the cop. I think i personally would have tazed her and threatened the rest of the crowd, and tell them to scatter. While he didn't set a good example of cop training or please the crowd, i think he should just get a lecture and a hard time from the guys back at the station. I am sure his ego is a little hurt, and jcardona is right, i mean he was in a lose-lose situation. Funny stuff lol.
 
I read most of this not all.. but I think what he did was fine. If someone is coming at me I am not wasting my time trying to grab spray or a taser... I am not going to give someone the chance to attack me b/c I am busy fooling around trying to pull somethkng out my belt or wherever it is they keep it. It gives the other person time to harm you imo, also with two of them, I think that made it harder. Now if the taser is accessiable with in a split second.. then yes I would have used it instead. Thats my .02.
 
thank u studd. was hoping a fellow ff would chime in.
When ur in the public eye ur held to a dif standard by most of the population. U have rules and they need followed. Its not that hard to understand. A punch is outside of regs in that area. He was never taught to use that in this situation and should never had done it.

If u were choking, and instead of the heimlich(the proper technique for the scenario) i give u a permenant stoma, wouldnt u be pissed?

He could have, should have and needed to act differently

remeber guys, he is in the public eye. the public pays his salary. When a paid athelete sleeps around on his wife, the media crusifies him. Why? because he works in the public eye and needs to behave as such. Those of us that do are role models to little children. Do u want ur kids thinking that the first line of defence against bein pushed in punching the assailent in the face? Im all for proper defence, but when in the public eye u need to act accordingly.
 
The police officer did not do anything wrong, he is an average cop not a swat officer and this was not a situation where you sweep the suspect legs out from under them and slam thier face into the ground. Just because his defense did not look like a professional move does not mean it was not justified. That situation easily could of escalated to life or death if the cop did the wrong thing. Here it is plain and simple for all of you saying to taze or spray the suspect, both of those methods are MORE painful and damaging then the punch he delivered. So he did not use EXCESSIVE force, in addition to that spraying or tazing someone was not an option at that point anyways. The cop did not have the time or space to pull out either weapon and hit a suspect with it. Doing so he would have lost control of the one suspect he was barely holding on to, and probably would of escalated the mob around him. It probably would of been more favoriable if the cop just pushed the woman back again, but he by no means did anything wrong. He was being assualted by two suspects and was surrounded by a mob, and I tell you now if you assault a cop they do not care if your a 300lb giant or a small woman if your threaten thier safety they will and do have the power to subdue you as they see fit. To LP I do not think its far to compare the situation you described to the one the officer was in, as sad as it may have been to have to do that, the cop was in a deadly situation...you were not.
 
Bhack91;4218128; said:
The police officer did not do anything wrong, he is an average cop not a swat officer and this was not a situation where you sweep the suspect legs out from under them and slam thier face into the ground. Just because his defense did not look like a professional move does not mean it was not justified. That situation easily could of escalated to life or death if the cop did the wrong thing. Here it is plain and simple for all of you saying to taze or spray the suspect, both of those methods are MORE painful and damaging then the punch he delivered. So he did not use EXCESSIVE force, in addition to that spraying or tazing someone was not an option at that point anyways. The cop did not have the time or space to pull out either weapon and hit a suspect with it. Doing so he would have lost control of the one suspect he was barely holding on to, and probably would of escalated the mob around him. It probably would of been more favoriable if the cop just pushed the woman back again, but he by no means did anything wrong. He was being assualted by two suspects and was surrounded by a mob, and I tell you now if you assault a cop they do not care if your a 300lb giant or a small woman if your threaten thier safety they will and do have the power to subdue you as they see fit. To LP I do not think its far to compare the situation you described to the one the officer was in, as sad as it may have been to have to do that, the cop was in a deadly situation...you were not.

well said!!
 
Lepisosteus platyrhincus;4217891; said:
SHE PUSHED HIM!! not slap, not grabbed for the gun, a freakin push!!

I cant believe some of the stuff said here. If this happend to u guys u would be calling for a repramand from his supperiors because he DESERVES it. A push does not deserve a punch. A push deserves gettin thrown on the ground, thrown on the hood, tazerd, pepper sprayed or so many other things. They are trained to handle this and trained proper technique. That was not proper technique


and yes she needed arrested, but not punched

Okay so you are saying that if you pushed a cop you dont expect him to retaliate...or you do but only with peperspray or a tazer...? You also say thrown on the ground you do realize that if a cop threw you on the ground it would probably be worse than that punch he threw.
 
Bhack91;4218128; said:
The police officer did not do anything wrong, he is an average cop not a swat officer and this was not a situation where you sweep the suspect legs out from under them and slam thier face into the ground. Just because his defense did not look like a professional move does not mean it was not justified. That situation easily could of escalated to life or death if the cop did the wrong thing. Here it is plain and simple for all of you saying to taze or spray the suspect, both of those methods are MORE painful and damaging then the punch he delivered. So he did not use EXCESSIVE force, in addition to that spraying or tazing someone was not an option at that point anyways. The cop did not have the time or space to pull out either weapon and hit a suspect with it. Doing so he would have lost control of the one suspect he was barely holding on to, and probably would of escalated the mob around him. It probably would of been more favoriable if the cop just pushed the woman back again, but he by no means did anything wrong. He was being assualted by two suspects and was surrounded by a mob, and I tell you now if you assault a cop they do not care if your a 300lb giant or a small woman if your threaten thier safety they will and do have the power to subdue you as they see fit. To LP I do not think its far to compare the situation you described to the one the officer was in, as sad as it may have been to have to do that, the cop was in a deadly situation...you were not.

Well said X2
 
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