Does anyone else's parents ever use their fih as a threat?

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My advice would be to step back and do your very best to see that your parents reallly honestly want the best for you. If they did not, they would care less that you were late for school.
You do know that by this logic any parent that beats or starves their kid to near death would be exonerated. "But but I had the best intention" I have lost track of the number of psych histories I've read with that freaking excuse painted all over them.



While being a teen usually means you are foolish and self centered that doesn't make you automatically wrong. Also just cause you made it to 40 (or any age for that matter) and managed to get either yourself or someone else pregnant doesn't mean you are wise or have the slightest clue.
 
chefjamesscott;3813597; said:
boy oh boy if that is how you view family relations have fun making love to your fish, have fun hugging your fish and most certainly have fun living with your fish and pets, because boy you so out of touch with reality that it is not even funny.

I have always said this and mean if for myself as well. IF THE TIME EVER COMES THAT I HAVE TO PUT MY FAMILY ON THE ALTAR OF MY HOBBIES IT IS TIME FOR ME TO LEAVE THAT HOBBY.

so do yourself a favour and email your own post to yourself or better yet write it down and carry it in your wallet and reread it 10-20 years from now.

just wait till you get in the real world friend, your oh so tough demeanor will not serve you well

and I can see your preconceived concept that marriage is all about what you want will get you a great marriage NOT.

Um I'm 30 with a masters degree, my own house, and happily married so nice try baker man. My parents raised me to respect life and not kill someones pets to get my point across. The action you are condoning are as counter to that as possible. A women that doesn't respect your values is a women for someone else. That dosn't mean that if I had to give up my hobby for my family I wouldn't if you can't tell the difference I'm not sure I can explain it.
 
vladfloroff;3813604; said:
You do know that by this logic any parent that beats or starves their kid to near death would be exonerated. "But but I had the best intention" I have lost track of the number of psych histories I've read with that freaking excuse painted all over them.

If your mom was so wise why the hell did she end up with TWO violent alcoholics? You see no issue with parents smoking with the kids (I'm assuming that what you meant by "big bowl of green")?!?

While being a teen usually means you are foolish and self centered that doesn't make you automatically wrong. Also just cause you made it to 40 (or any age for that matter) and managed to get either yourself or someone else pregnant doesn't mean you are wise or have the slightest clue.
I ignored your first post but your absolutely out of line dissing the mans mother :screwy: Please please edit your post.
I had a stepfather that was a violent abusive alcoholic it was hellll. However I learned martial arts and got better role models (at school and at the studio) and ended up being a much better person as a result. compared to the kids who had grown up around me and had been given everything and never experienced a hardship. I have done a lot better than 99% of the kids I grew up with who insulted my family.
 
chefjamesscott;3813539; said:
edit:i have 8 kids so I know a thing or 2 about parenting, and by the way my mom often gave me advice that I did not want to listen to as I knew I was right. Even when she sat down with us over our big bowl of greenery (she talked we puffed)and talked with us we found it funny, but in the end she was right.

So as to keep context I quoted myself.

Now where did I bash teenagers in this post? Nowhere did I bash teenagers. :screwy:

Dude have care, YOU HAVE NO IDEA what I went through with my real dad and my step dad BOTH raging lunatic alcoholics. I ask you have you ever been whipped with an electrical cord as a form of corporal discipline?
So before you go off half cocked about who has no idea, stop shooting blanks and put away your gun!!!!

Quite simply a very interesting FLAW in the human beings nature that takes over many people in their teen years is an self important focale pointedness as they begin to figure out who and what they are and will be in life.

Those who are able to overcome such a flaw end up having wonderful relationships with their parents and elders. Why? Because they realize that those who are older BELIEVE IT OR NOT have actually once been teenagers and they have much wisdom to offer and usually offer it as a way of trying to keep the present teen from the pitfalls of that stage of life.

Those who fall prey to this flaw pretty much end up running down the rampant path of raging hormones and fury crying wolf and a huge list of other things. Claiming that their parents just don't understand. And usually the people that accepts them as beign totally in the right is their peer group. And when trouble comes as a direct repercussion of these matters as it usually does who's fault is it. The parent's who don't understand or the person who did the action.

My advice would be to step back and do your very best to see that your parents reallly honestly want the best for you. If they did not, they would care less that you were late for school. Why would they bring your fish into it, well, were you up late doing waterchanges? Has your hobby caused you to sideline some of the formative activities that will very much shape your future such as getting to school on time? etc.... etc... etc....

My earlier post was not a bash at teenagers, rather some advice to take a cheque from the bank of reality and cash it. So long as you live under someones' roof, they rule the roost END OF STORY :popcorn:

vladfloroff;3813604; said:
You do know that by this logic any parent that beats or starves their kid to near death would be exonerated. "But but I had the best intention" I have lost track of the number of psych histories I've read with that freaking excuse painted all over them.

If your mom was so wise why the hell did she end up with TWO violent alcoholics? You see no issue with parents smoking with the kids (I'm assuming that what you meant by "big bowl of green")?!?

While being a teen usually means you are foolish and self centered that doesn't make you automatically wrong. Also just cause you made it to 40 (or any age for that matter) and managed to get either yourself or someone else pregnant doesn't mean you are wise or have the slightest clue.


Damn I wish people would keep things in context, so I enlarged 2 words to contextualize things about my mom. Look above to see "she talked". Now picture if you can, 5 stoners (me and my friends) being caught in my mothers basement with a huge tupperware bowl full of nice stuff from 3 different countries all mixed together using newspapers instead of rolling paper and down the stairs comes my mother who came home early from her week out of town. Instead of freaking out on us, she actually came up to us, sat down with us and talked to us for about 45 minutes and then she got up and left to go out for dinner. I can not put into words how intense it was for us to have my mother do this, it left a huge impression on all of us. And all the while she did not take one drag of anything. Part of what she shared with us had to do with when she was growing up in the late 50's-early 60's

How can you equate talking to ones child about being late for school with beating or starving a child :screwy: :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:?

Now about the ? with my moms 2 husbands. Ask any lady who has had the misfortune of ending up with an alcoholic if it was always like that or if in some way the dude hid things until after they were married. I will not side with most guys who think that it is the ladies fault. Rather I will take the stand that many many many of the problems in marriage are because the male is a ignorant man who has to have things his way. A man who refuses to consider that his wife is not his possession but rather a living human being with dreams, hopes and passion. A living human being who is looking for someone to go with them, not put them on a leash, in a cage or on a trophy.

How many ladies got married to the wrong guy, because love is an interesting thing. It has the ability to either blind or give sight. How many ladies out of love got married, only to find that the dude was a douchebag who was able to hide the truth of who they were very well only to let the cat out of the bag after the ring was on the finger? I would say many more than is known. On the same hand, how many ladies out of love stay and do their best to see if the man involved can come to redemption from the pitfall of alcoholism they have fallen into. And how many ladies eventually have to leave or perish in a abuse filled beating?

And in relation to the part of your post I put in blue :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
It is indeed so very funny to see how people try to demean other people. I will but suffice to say that anyone can take a look at my posts or threads here and judge for themselves whether or not I have a clue or wisdom.
 
vladfloroff;3813646; said:
Questioning ones wisdom and insulting them are two different things.
Dissing a mans mother simply cannot be justified sorry.
 
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It is indeed so very funny to see how people try to demean other people. I will but suffice to say that anyone can take a look at my posts or threads here and judge for themselves whether or not I have a clue or wisdom.
That was not aimed at you, anyone who can raise 8 kids without them becoming felons should be lauded, . However just because a person managed to breed doesn't make them wise nor dose it make them a parent.

How can you equate talking to ones child about being late for school with beating or starving a child
Talking to ones child and threatening to kill their pets is two totally different things. "If you are late for school again I will make you sell your tanks" and "If you F**king piss me off one more time I'm killing you F**king fish" are very different.
 
vladfloroff;3813622; said:
Um I'm 30 with a masters degree, my own house, and happily married so nice try baker man. My parents raised me to respect life and not kill someones pets to get my point across. The action you are condoning are as counter to that as possible. A women that doesn't respect your values is a women for someone else. That dosn't mean that if I had to give up my hobby for my family I wouldn't if you can't tell the difference I'm not sure I can explain it.


:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

ah the wonder of internet machismo :screwy:

there is a huge difference between a chef and a baker friend

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

wow are you a student of theatre cause the pathos of your post is revealed in it's patheticness
 
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