Congrats!!! well you say you have been power feeding this ray for a month??? looks super skinny.. go get some night crawlers asap and get some meat on that ray! but again congrats hes okay for now
Dreaded Death Curl.. Please Help!!
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Glad its working out but the question remains.....
What caused it and how do you prevent a repeat?
What caused it and how do you prevent a repeat?
yeh your right, I have been trying to fatten this guy up for a while, its sad that he has actually put a lil weight on since I got him, was even worse when he came in.. dont know if he had a parasite that was keeping him skinny, but ive treated with prazi pro.. water is fresh was changed yesterday
I believe this curling was/is caused by a fungal or bacterial infection on the bottom of the disc, causing irritation so the ray lifts the edges of the disc, just like documented on Franks site under the My first ray section.. dont know how to prevent?? especially when everyone is back and forth about melafix, primafix, and even water changes.. ive heard it all here lately
I believe this curling was/is caused by a fungal or bacterial infection on the bottom of the disc, causing irritation so the ray lifts the edges of the disc, just like documented on Franks site under the My first ray section.. dont know how to prevent?? especially when everyone is back and forth about melafix, primafix, and even water changes.. ive heard it all here lately
I don't want to be the downer here but, I don't think that you are out of the woods. That ray is skinny and that curl was rather severe.
Keep up on the water changes and the good food. I would not add anything to the water (no meds and no salt).
You still have something going on.
Colin
Keep up on the water changes and the good food. I would not add anything to the water (no meds and no salt).
You still have something going on.
Colin
anybody have any idea as to why the other ray in the same tank is perfectly fine and never showed any signs of stress???.. even same species ray, both just as hardy, just this little guy was so small from the moment I got him, I feel more like I rescued him than bought him, it has been hell tryin to put any weight on him at all...got water tested again today and absolutely perfect in all parameters, still perplexed but glad he is swimming around, actively feeding, and laying somewhat flat.. he still shows sign of irritation on the bottom of his disc, time will tell and we shall see.. more to come
Test your ammonia 30-45 minutes after a feeding.. When you get it tested later on, you might of allowed a small ammonia sipke to cycle its way out of the tank..
I sometimes see people feed silversides and other seafoods very high in fats and oils, and seems to nasty up the water pretty quickly.. Like DW, water seems a bit cloudy.. Look up at the surface of your water, does it look like an oil slick? Do you get any bubbles or frothiness?
I agree with less additives and more small partial water changes.. salt and clean water is really a great way to help and save fish.
Like the others said.. that ray is very skinny, and if the other ray in the tank is putting on weight and the other is not, it's definately parasites. I am curious to wonder if the ray is having issues battling off these recently treated parasites internally, and is causing his internal organs massive amounts of stress..
ie: a belly full of worms just died from meds and now my body has to work its way out of there.. could be permenant damage to the inside of the fish? Who knows..
Keep up those small partials, heavy salt, and maybe think about offering a different type of food? I had success injecting parasite meds (metro) into nightcrawlers.. The rays which previously had white, stringy fecal matter, within days, would produce long solid curly feces.. That is a big sign of parasites or no parasites..
Have you sifted the poo lately?
I sometimes see people feed silversides and other seafoods very high in fats and oils, and seems to nasty up the water pretty quickly.. Like DW, water seems a bit cloudy.. Look up at the surface of your water, does it look like an oil slick? Do you get any bubbles or frothiness?
I agree with less additives and more small partial water changes.. salt and clean water is really a great way to help and save fish.
Like the others said.. that ray is very skinny, and if the other ray in the tank is putting on weight and the other is not, it's definately parasites. I am curious to wonder if the ray is having issues battling off these recently treated parasites internally, and is causing his internal organs massive amounts of stress..
ie: a belly full of worms just died from meds and now my body has to work its way out of there.. could be permenant damage to the inside of the fish? Who knows..
Keep up those small partials, heavy salt, and maybe think about offering a different type of food? I had success injecting parasite meds (metro) into nightcrawlers.. The rays which previously had white, stringy fecal matter, within days, would produce long solid curly feces.. That is a big sign of parasites or no parasites..
Have you sifted the poo lately?
