Ebola round 2

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I find all west coast brands on the shelves here, but some east coast brands are gone.
I was able to buy towels & napkins & select from 3 brands of TP in different packages, from 6 to 48 "double" rolls.

My Bro in law is in a wheelchair and sis can't get out, so I took her a care package.
She's pretty nervous, as BIL is in sad shape now. He might succumb if infected.
 
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A fellow was complaining he could not get the malaria/lupus drug so he could have it as a just in case. I got to thinking about this. I guess if you could be constantly taking the drug while healthy it might help if the stories going around turn out to be true. One story from a doctor is that among a decent number of his lupus patients (maybe 80?) on the drug none have yet to become infected. So he might have to be taking the drug for over a year while we wait on a vaccine.
I guess if he just had the drug around so he could have it if he ever tested positive, that might work. I hope if I get infected the doctor I see will use the drug and my state will allow it's use.
Hello; To follow up on my previous comment. Just caught a bit of information about the use of the malaria/lupus drug in question. Turns out the drug accumulates in the body. So there will be a limit on how much a person can take. Apparently the total dose over a few days is important. So if you took 30 grams a day for five days it is the total of 150 grams which counts. So there must be a limit to the total a person can tolerate. Looks like a doctor prescribed option.
 
Hello; Heard Dr. Fauci say this morning that maybe as many as 50% of people who have the virus do not show symptoms. I think a small country (New Zeeland maybe) has been testing more broadly. Testing everyone they can including those without symptoms. If this proves true pretty much everything should be rethought about the virus. This could mean test protocols such as those used in the USA where, so far, only sick people are tested for the most part, that the infected rate may be undercounted by half. This also skews the death rate and seriously ill percentages considerably.


Earlier in the pandemic I think the general consensus was around 80% of those infected with some symptoms managed to deal with the illness without going into a hospital bed. Then later we learned that maybe 25% of the infected had no symptoms at all. If it now is indeed 50% of the infected are asymptomatic then The percentage of those infected who recover on their own will be much higher. I have not tried to do the math but roughly could be around 90%. (I actually suspect even more than 90% is possible). This should be very good news for us all.


This might explain another bit of information circulating. That being the covid19 virus was already well out in China by maybe early November. That might explain some inconsistencies such as how the virus appeared to be spreading so fast back in January and February. It may have already been around for more time and if so may not wind up rated as acutely infectious as we have been led to believe. Maybe no more infectious than a more common flu. Just wishful thinking so far though.
 
Hello; Heard Dr. Fauci say this morning that maybe as many as 50% of people who have the virus do not show symptoms. I think a small country (New Zeeland maybe) has been testing more broadly. Testing everyone they can including those without symptoms. If this proves true pretty much everything should be rethought about the virus. This could mean test protocols such as those used in the USA where, so far, only sick people are tested for the most part, that the infected rate may be undercounted by half. This also skews the death rate and seriously ill percentages considerably.


Earlier in the pandemic I think the general consensus was around 80% of those infected with some symptoms managed to deal with the illness without going into a hospital bed. Then later we learned that maybe 25% of the infected had no symptoms at all. If it now is indeed 50% of the infected are asymptomatic then The percentage of those infected who recover on their own will be much higher. I have not tried to do the math but roughly could be around 90%. (I actually suspect even more than 90% is possible). This should be very good news for us all.


This might explain another bit of information circulating. That being the covid19 virus was already well out in China by maybe early November. That might explain some inconsistencies such as how the virus appeared to be spreading so fast back in January and February. It may have already been around for more time and if so may not wind up rated as acutely infectious as we have been led to believe. Maybe no more infectious than a more common flu. Just wishful thinking so far though.
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Hello; Forgive me. I must not have stated my speculation very well. The way I see it this development should be more of a relief than scary. One of the points I was after is having maybe 50% or more of the infected being asymptomatic is good news if true. Firstly, if true, this implies that if you do get the covid19 infection there is a much greater chance you will have mild to no symptoms at all. Also the chance of death by the percentages becomes much lower. At least this was my initial reaction.

Here is another more specious speculation and one much weaker in terms of my confidence in it. I think it could also imply that we have been around many more of the infected than was thought to be the case a few weeks ago. If that speculation were to hold true it could possibly mean the worst of the crisis is behind us. By this I am thinking that many of the individuals more likely to get very sick and need to be in a hospital bed may have already been exposed. Back in November, December and some of January the virus may have been already fairly widespread with most people not showing much effect.
I have only one bit of evidence so far. That being the incidence in my area in Barbourville KY around January 14, 2020. The unconfirmed story going around was a Union College student showed up at a local hospital with a serious unknown disease. That the hospital was shut down and the student was sent to the CDC in Atlanta. I did a search that day and only found a story saying the hospital was back open and in full operation with no details. My unsupported speculation being that it could have been an early covid19 infection of a more vulnerable person. Thai was before any covid19 specific tests were around I think. May have been they tested for the flu and such common stuff and it was not any of them.

Am I saying that those of us who have not had the infection are in the clear? No. It is still a new virus and we do not have any immunity until we actually survive an infection. I just think the new evidence makes the odds of being a survivor much better than was thought a few weeks ago. Also a much smaller number who get infected should wind up in a hospital bed. I am still in the more at risk group so will continue to take care but if true this news seems good to me.
 
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Hello; Heard Dr. Fauci say this morning that maybe as many as 50% of people who have the virus do not show symptoms. I think a small country (New Zeeland maybe) has been testing more broadly. Testing everyone they can including those without symptoms. If this proves true pretty much everything should be rethought about the virus. This could mean test protocols such as those used in the USA where, so far, only sick people are tested for the most part, that the infected rate may be undercounted by half. This also skews the death rate and seriously ill percentages considerably.


Earlier in the pandemic I think the general consensus was around 80% of those infected with some symptoms managed to deal with the illness without going into a hospital bed. Then later we learned that maybe 25% of the infected had no symptoms at all. If it now is indeed 50% of the infected are asymptomatic then The percentage of those infected who recover on their own will be much higher. I have not tried to do the math but roughly could be around 90%. (I actually suspect even more than 90% is possible). This should be very good news for us all.


This might explain another bit of information circulating. That being the covid19 virus was already well out in China by maybe early November. That might explain some inconsistencies such as how the virus appeared to be spreading so fast back in January and February. It may have already been around for more time and if so may not wind up rated as acutely infectious as we have been led to believe. Maybe no more infectious than a more common flu. Just wishful thinking so far though.

Here in oz we have had limited testing until recently but they have been expanding it lately, still not doing mass community testing yet which may be why our numbers are so low. Overall we are doing well after 3 weeks of "social distancing" and they just reported over 50% of confirmed infections have fully recovered.
There's already calls for things to return to normal but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets worse before it gets better especially if the restrictions are relaxed too soon. We are also heading into winter which won't help.
I think it's been around a lot longer than reported or really known about too. Will be interesting to see the final figures of how infectious and deadly it really is once /if it's all over.
 
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Scary--because seemingly "well" people can pass the virus on to other seemingly well people who then pass it on to vulnerable, medically fragile family members and friends Natural selection at its worse. What a nasty way to weed out the weaker members of our society. Even with gloves and masks, care givers will probably infect the loved ones that they are caring for.
 
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Scary--because seemingly "well" people can pass the virus on to other seemingly well people who then pass it on to vulnerable, medically fragile family members and friends
Hello; Yes I see and follow your point. For the vulnerable it does imply a much better chance to be exposed. A double edged sort of thing with good and bad at the same time. I see some possible hope of having better odds of having a milder infection and at the same time am somewhat more likely to be around an asymptomatic person with the infection.


Natural selection at its worse. What a nasty way to weed out the weaker members of our society. Even with gloves and masks, care givers will probably infect the loved ones that they are caring for.
Hello: Yes. I continue to push mow my lawn. Ten years ago when I was 62 and bought my first home I could mow the lawn in two sessions, sometimes one. Last year I was reduced to as many as five or six sessions due to a foot tendon injury. I am doing better so far this year. My friends keep pushing me to get a rider mower. But having seen the decline of too many folks who stopped being active I intend to keep at it as much as possible. I am already part of the more vulnerable group on two fronts, age and blood pressure. I try to stay fit so I do not become even more vulnerable. (more co-morbidities)
I get some of us are more vulnerable thru no fault of our own while others work at degrading their health with bad habits. Either way nature does not care and will weed us out. High population densities combined with quick and easy travel by massive numbers of folks around the world set the stage.

I also see the dilemma for health care workers. There have been reports of some staying away from contact with their families as a precaution. A video made the news of a health care worker visiting his child thru a glass door because he was concerned about physical contact. Sometimes we get dealt a bad hand and have make the best of it.
I saw on the news here in the USA where some old folks homes had the staff just not show up for work due to their fears. I get that nursing home staff do not make big money and are taking care of others folks loved ones. But other health care folks had to go in an evacuate the residents.
 
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