Ebola round 2

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OMG Eddie plz don't worry about that. if that "style" of input joined this thread I'd have to exile myself from the forum. completely.

I been gone awhile so I'm truly curious of his whereabouts? This seems like the type of thread he'd be allllllll over

Its cute that you called it input. Lmao

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........................This seems like the type of thread he'd be allllllll over

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biggest understatement of all time. We'd have a new Head of all Intergalactic CDC Information Management.
 
The CDC is freaking out because a nurse, working with an Ebola patient, got on a plane. Yet the government still won't ban flights from countries where the epidemic is raging. The country is in the very best of hands. Sheesh.

Find more informative Ebola coverage at Glenn Reynolds blog:

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/?s=ebola
 
Spread the love around, or make that spread Ebola around. They have identified the second nurse with Ebola. She flew back to Texas Monday from Cleveland. Now they have to contact all 132 passengers on that Frontier flight. The plane landed at 8:16 pm on Monday. The nurse had a fever on Tuesday. Since she was symptomless on Monday evening, everyone on that flight is safe. So why are they bothering contacting the other passengers since they are all safe......

http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-diagnosed-in-second-dallas-nurse-105542930.html

Hello; I am going to add some speculation of my own. She is reported without symptoms on Monday and had them on Tuesday. That all in contact with her on Monday are safe seems suspicious. Viral illness does not have an on/off switch to my understanding. Meaning the body’s defense mechanisms to elevate temperature (fever) is a gradual thing and happens after the infection is a ways along. After you pick up a virus, it begins to invade cells and take them over. The invaded cell produces a great number of copies of the virus eventually releasing them. For a time there are plenty of other cells nearby for the virus copies to attack and invade. Eventually there are so many virus copies they do not find fresh cells so easy and can be shed.

I do think it is true that an infected person with a fever is actively shedding a lot of virus. I am also thinking that some virus, perhaps not a lot, can be shed before a fever is really noticed. I think it may be that a gradually increasing quantity of virus is shed as the disease progresses. As the person enters the later stages of the disease the hemorrhagic (fluid loss) part of the infection becomes the stage of the most shedding.

A fever can be masked with medication, so absence of fever is not necessarily absence of viral shedding.

Some are calling the hunt for the other 132 people on the plane an abundance of caution. It seems to me a necessary step and likely that it is known to be necessary.

I heard additional unsettling reporting today. A CNN talking head stated that Ebola is persists for hours on dry surfaces and for days on wet surfaces. This does not fit what I have been able to find before, so maybe a miss-speak.

So far two health care workers that we know of have violated travel protocols after being around others infected with Ebola. The second nurse from the Dallas hospital and news agency doctor mentioned in a prior post. These two people should have known better even without any outside protocols in place. Mr. Duncan was soundly criticized for coming to the USA after being around Ebola infected people, what about these last two?
 
Scary. That article quoted someone (unnamed) who said that in hindsight Duncan should have been shipped out. There are only four hospitals with biocontainment units. If that's the case, how many Ebola patients can these four hospitals handle? Dallas has two Ebola patients right now.
From an article I read, the four hospitals have a total of 19 beds but only enough staff to handle two patients at a time. http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2...ncerns-you-the-cdc-solution-will-horrify-you/
 
Spread the love around, or make that spread Ebola around. They have identified the second nurse with Ebola. She flew back to Texas Monday from Cleveland. Now they have to contact all 132 passengers on that Frontier flight. The plane landed at 8:16 pm on Monday. The nurse had a fever on Tuesday. Since she was symptomless on Monday evening, everyone on that flight is safe. So why are they bothering contacting the other passengers since they are all safe......

http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-diagnosed-in-second-dallas-nurse-105542930.html

less than 150 miles from me. time to buy an ebola survival kit and some ebola-c.
 
Dallas Ebola patient #3: "She was in a group of individuals known to have exposure to Ebola. She should not have traveled on a commercial airline," Frieden told reporters. CDC guidelines outline the need for "controlled movement," and that does not include taking any kind of public transportation, he said....."She did not vomit. She was not bleeding. So the level of risk of people around her would be extremely low, but because of that extra margin of safety we will be contacting them all."

I have complete confidence in everything Frieden says. The 70+ health care workers who had contact with Duncan were not the people that were being monitored.


http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-diagnosed-in-second-dallas-nurse-105542930.html

The nurses only wore their usual scrubs until Duncan's Ebola diagnosis.
"Federal investigators, Frieden said, have learned that the hospital used various forms of personal protective gear during Duncan’s first days at Texas Health Presbyterian. But the Dallas Morning News, citing medical records obtained by the Associated Press, reported Wednesday afternoon that hospital workers wore only their usual scrubs until Duncan’s Ebola was confirmed."
 
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