No that doesn't apply to things that are ichy or the meat and animal by product that gets jammed into our mouths.
Ethics in fishkeeping
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i have to be honest when i say i didnt read the whole thread. but i do want to say that it all depends the store and the fish's owner. for example when i first started in the hobby i had a 20 hex and just went out and bought a bunch of cichlids. i had a oscar, gt, jag, convict, and a pleco. not knowing all of these fish except the convict will out grow that tank. so as time went by i started researching about each individual fish and learned that they will outgrow this tank and returned all but the con and pleco. now i could have never researched and leave them be and they most likely would have killed each other or died due to stress but i didnt. like when i got my rtc i already knew they grow 4'+ so i made myself a pond . it might have been a little low budget but it worked now its 14" and i also have a 26" tsn. now their both in a 10'x5' pond and loving it. so i say that to say its all about the effert you want to put into your craft or hobby. to this day i still research fish even if i dont own them but i do it because if i come across a fish i think is interesting i already know all i need to know to keep that particular fish healthy and thriving.
Care to show which big fish was crammed into little tank?
Talk is cheap. You didn't learn, or if you did, the only mistake you learned is not keeping silver arowana, since it's hard for you to SELL it at big size. Since you started to put your tank together, you were looking for a cheap, easy route. You want to keep fish that doesn't take much time or money to care for. That's fine with me, since that's not the tank I enjoy anyway. You're just like one of those people who spent a fortune on a design Italian couch, then sit with the plastic wrap still on it. That's no surprise to me. Just don't making excuse. It's very pathetic to pat yourself on the back and call yourself better fish keeper. If you're that good, people will recognize it. There's no need to be annoying.
There is an ENORMOUS RTC in an aquarium at SeaWorld, hes in the display with some 6ft+ gar. Wonder if he was an aquarium fish that got too big, you can hardly tell hes not a big whiskered manatee from above!
But I agree, it breaks my heart to see baby fish in tanks way too small for them to grow in. I dislike that monster fish like Pacu and ID Sharks are so easy to get at pet stores. 99% of them go to 10-50 gallon tanks..its really ashame.
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But I agree, it breaks my heart to see baby fish in tanks way too small for them to grow in. I dislike that monster fish like Pacu and ID Sharks are so easy to get at pet stores. 99% of them go to 10-50 gallon tanks..its really ashame.
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Gosh this thread should count for my summer reading lol. This is also why I like fish such as red tail payara and four line pims. They still get to a relatively good size and are still super cool fish to own. I still have to add on the arowana topic. My neighbor kept a silver in his 6' x 3' x 2' aquarium and it lived to be 14 years old and only got to be 21" long. It's tank mate was an Oscar and he said he would feed it daily along with weekly water changes. He is also an inactive member on MFK. But I think it's mostly genetics. You should prepare for your silver aro to get 4' long but most likely wont. And just because it's smaller doesn't mean it's unhealthy.
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Our family owns a small zoo and when I here people start talking about tank or cage size and what is needed I get nervous. This kind of talk is where animal rights groups start their campaigns to end animal ownership.
I hope nobody on this sight is in favour of that. Of course it is impossible to compltely duplicate a wild habitat if that is what we are going for then all we can have for fish will be bettas. We all strive to do the best we can and a lot of people soon find out that certain fish are beyond their means and end up rehoming them. Lets not get down on our fellow fish keepers but maybe offerhelpful information that will benafit them and their fish. Please remember that statements made like the one that strted thisthread will bring fish keeping to an end. The animal rights people feed on this and the government listens to them because they sqawk. Our zoo is living proof of this and I don't want to see others go through what these people are putting us through so lets all stick together. Remember the old saying divide and conquer.
I hope nobody on this sight is in favour of that. Of course it is impossible to compltely duplicate a wild habitat if that is what we are going for then all we can have for fish will be bettas. We all strive to do the best we can and a lot of people soon find out that certain fish are beyond their means and end up rehoming them. Lets not get down on our fellow fish keepers but maybe offerhelpful information that will benafit them and their fish. Please remember that statements made like the one that strted thisthread will bring fish keeping to an end. The animal rights people feed on this and the government listens to them because they sqawk. Our zoo is living proof of this and I don't want to see others go through what these people are putting us through so lets all stick together. Remember the old saying divide and conquer.
You are right. I should have said you try to keep huge growing fish. The smaller ones tend to die before they even have a chance to put on any size. The one's that you buy large don't seem to fare too well. You are the posterboy for how not to keep fish. I'm sure Wes loves you...you are putting his kids through college with all the fish you buy, kill, then buy more to replace those you have killed. Your tanks are a revolving door.
We are talking about the ethics of fish keeping. What were you going to do with 3 Bumblebee Grouper (Epinephelus lanceolatus)? I guess we'll never know what you had in store for a fish that grows 6' long and weighs several hundred lbs because you killed all 3 before they even hit 6". But you are the better fish keeper because you spend more money than me on fish and post your little "guess what's in the bucket" threads every other day?
The results speak for themselves.
Death row is right:
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Yeah some people keep certain fish all cause they think they have admirers. What a waste of fishkeeping. This whole thread was about people buying potentially large fish with no plans to keep them for long term. Too many people depend on trading it back, selling it to someone else, putting it into someone's pond (supposedly), or giving it away to a public aquarium. This is irresponsible. Most of these fish never even make it to that stage and you also can't depend on having others take your fish once you can't keep them anymore. Like I said there are 2 kinds of people in fishkeeping and there is really no convincing certain people. It is a sad fact we all have to live with. You also have to recognize some of them are sadists. Some people get in to fishkeeping all for that feeling of possession and power they get from their fish. Tired of all those guys bragging how "tough" their fish are and that they are a "real man" cause their fish can kill/eat your fish. That is not what fish keeping is all about.
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