Fake Vendors and Nonsense in the Market....

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I like Justin's proposal to make regions pickup only and the general Market MUST offer shipping.

Y'all don't worry about this. If something now offered incorrectly, it will be deleted. I refuse to believe that you MFKers wouldn't be able to figure it out.

While I may be the Hand of the King, this is still slightly beyond the purview of my authority to do without approval from the Throne. In the absence of any fix with a plugin however, I feel that this is the ideal solution.

Li is really busy with work until after Christmas. After his rush slows down, these larger scale fixes to the Market are the current top priority.
 
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And to be fair, some of my new mods are absolutely frothing at the mouth to get a chance to attack the marketplace lmao
It gave me about 25 extra notifications when I was away for a few days. It's nuts guys!
 
when we had region section before it was pretty slow. maybe thats why they took it out? i dont know. even when we had it. people still post on the regular market place. reason, cuz i think the regular market forum had more traffic so people rather go there. even tho its the same amount of people buying and selling. but its the traffic that attracts people. for the longest time before i didnt even know we had regions. like for example, the vendor section, its pretty slow. you still see people on the regular market forum posting WTB fish that the vendors on here has but they dont even know about so they post on the regular marketplace. but this site had died down a lot now in general as far as activities.

MFK now has to compete with Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc.

It is up to each individual MFKer to make our favorite site more appealing by posting interesting and useful and user-friendly content. Don't count on others to do it.

If 90%+ of what you do (I don't mean you in particular) is post one-two liners unburdened by any usefulness to anyone else but with who you are having an SMS-type exchange, and even to them only for half a second, then we won't get new members that way. It's too much fluff.

People respect helpfulness and usefulness in the first and foremost place because our hobby is relatively very high tech, high knowledge, and demanding. That makes them want to join and stay and grow and be a part of something significant.

If you wanna be a part of a great texting community, join Twitter, or Yelper, or Whiner, or Crapper, whatever.

I am not for all work and no fun but work must be 90% and 10% is for fun or some such balance.

For many years I have been trying to put a suggestion in the box that I think we must have and enforce the forum rule that no trivial content is welcome in most threads, where serious things are being discussed and which threads are likely to be used in the future for homework by countless peers. Like "Thank you" or "Oh, that's great!" or "What's wrong with you?", etc.

Moreover, I have been suggesting for years that we should have a user-friendly knowledge-and-experience-based database describing first hand experience of owning such and such fish. This is the foundation on which you can have all the bells and whistles you want but without it you have NOTHING.

The goal is, say, a new comer comes into MFK because they are googling what to expect when one keeps a SA redtail catfish. Boom! MFK has a section "SA RTC" where over years MFKers have accumulated a 100 or a 1000 threads about their personal experience of keeping the RTC and not just any threads! These threads are interesting, abound in visuals, and are to the point, not diluted by fluff, flamings, or arguing, and they are followed through from fish purchase to fish demise and everything in between, and all is analyzed and conclusions are drawn.

Everyone is vexed to spend 5-8 hours out of 10 homework hours looking for the right threads and then sifting through the threads for the nuggets of usefulness. No one want to do it! And who would blame them? Such homework is disheartening.

Imagine having such a collection for most fish most of us keep?! There'd be no value to it. Each of us today could benefit greatly from it. Everyone in the world who does any homework or even just a quick search will know it. That'd be an eternal temple built on solid foundation.

To it, one can fasten a MarketPlace, Lounge, etc. whatever they want, and whatever they hang on it will thrive. Why? Because of the foundation. Because of the interest and traffic it creates.

Without it, it has nothing to offer and is destined to slowly die off into oblivion like waterwolves etc.

EDIT: and this may not require much or any programming. A lot of this can be started to get accomplished today simply through our agreement, goodwill, and fair policing... self-policing in the first place - ask yourself if you care about MFK - am I about to bring a value to the MFK by typing what I am typing? Am I being helpful and useful? Remember the wisdom: GIGO.

Garbage in. Garbage out.
 
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Ask not what MFK can do for you...

Sorry Sarge, it's of a tangenial incline but a bit related.

I'm not sure how the mods/admin here are supposed to stop stupid?

The only way to stop stupid is to change into less stupid. Those of them that want it. And most do, I must believe.

I may be wrong but I hope kinda in the way I proposed above. By organizing knowledge and info into highways, state routes, county routes, streets, lanes and courts in a clear and accessible, even INVITING way.

By education and awareness. MFK has accumulated a vast knowledge base, Enormous. It's all there but it is ill-accessible to the point that few even try to take advantage of it.
 
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I am all about breaking it back down to region. That was an awesome setup, a lot easier than trying to figure out what state the people’s town is in, or looking up zips when the state isn’t provided in the listing.
 
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FYI ...…. I was referring to those that lack reading comprehension skills, as in how to properly list something in the classifieds. If one can't manage that, or even be bothered to take the time to read the rules prior to listing something, IMO simplifying the simple won't help. This is a discussion about the Marketplace.




Getting away from the Marketplace discussion, and completely off topic, I agree with some of the rest of what you stated, but on the flip side show me a site that is overly heavy handed, where comments get removed, threads locked, and someone is constantly attempting to tell me what and how to do it, and I'll find the door real quick. I suspect many others would do the same, over the years some already have. The overall fairness from admin/mods here is what has kept me here, this coming from someone who as a former mod on a fish forum never once locked a discussion, or deleted anything, or anyone. And I was given LOTS of reasons over the years to do so. There is a lot more on this site outside the open discussions, that already is organized, such as scores of stickies, and various articles, that are already easily found, if someone is willing to open their eyes. It is due to that current knowledge base that visitors are constantly landing here. Right now there are;
Total: 1,129 (members: 101, guests: 774)

Anyone that feels qualified can write an article and submit it, or start a thought provoking or fact filled thread that if found worthy can be stickied to the top of the folder. But I don't think we should be limiting anyone's "fun", either. Some people just like to post pics of their fish, and the majority of the entire thread might be considered "fluff" to some.

That doesn't mean that one has to put up with constant nonsense, either. I believe from Rob 's recent action he is more than willing to work with members, as well as drop the hammer when required. Sometimes a heavy hand is the only way to stop stupid.
 
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