Feeders

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goldfish are NOT ok to feed pdsmith, they contain a growth inhibiting hormone which can stunt your P's growth, there's a guy in canada who fed his nothing but for 3 years n he wondered why all our pics of 18 month P's were loads bigger fish than his 5.5"er 3 years old n 5.5 inches.
personally if your P's will eat pellets i dont see the point in feeding live, good pellets are much better for them.
 
Forget live food and especially raising your own live food its a PIA. Go to the grocery store grab a pound of raw market shrimp come home, peel the shrimp cut the shrimp in small bite size pieces. Now soak the pieces in Kent Zoe freshwater vitamins for 20 min then put each portion in a zip lock bag and freeze it. When you want to feed the fish pull the bag out and thaw the shrimp then drop in the tank. I tried convicts as feeders in my 600 with my piranha and I now have about 25-30 3/4" convicts swimming with my P's. Breeding them gets to be a pain so I even dropped the parents in the tank and they have been in there for about 3 weeks now. If you can get your P's on prepared food it would save you a lot of time, money and hassle of having extra tanks set up just to feed your fish. I only have to by a pound of shrimp every 1 to 1 1/2 months. You don't need to feed your P's live food for every meal. I feed mine Hikari cichlid pellets daily and shrimp every 2 days or so. I've only given my P's 2 live fish since I've had them.
 
I dont have P's but i have a florida gar, silver aerowana, Motoro ray, cat fish, and a blue gill. They all eat raw shrimp, pellets (all kinds), feeders, and any other raw fish I am cooking for dinner. I was just looking for something to do for fun and if I could feed them to my other tank great.

Of there diet i do shrimp like once a week, feeders 2 times a month and pellets the rest of the time. So i think they have a well balanced diet. ?
 
dodgy;3443741; said:
goldfish are NOT ok to feed pdsmith, they contain a growth inhibiting hormone which can stunt your P's growth, there's a guy in canada who fed his nothing but for 3 years n he wondered why all our pics of 18 month P's were loads bigger fish than his 5.5"er 3 years old n 5.5 inches.
personally if your P's will eat pellets i dont see the point in feeding live, good pellets are much better for them.

yea i know about the hormone. i don't feed live anyways thanks tho i was just letting ppl know that you can feed them if done properly. also you should know that the hormone you are talking about is produced when water quality is bad which it is in an lfs feeder tank. if quarnteed properly in clean water the hormone isn't released. piranhas also make the same hormone thats why ppl that have bad water have slow growing Ps. on a side a friend of mine had a solo caribe for over 7 years that was ONLY fed feeders and it grew to over a foot. the only reason it died was bc the heater broke.
 
Gator;3443775; said:
Forget live food and especially raising your own live food its a PIA. Go to the grocery store grab a pound of raw market shrimp come home, peel the shrimp cut the shrimp in small bite size pieces. Now soak the pieces in Kent Zoe freshwater vitamins for 20 min then put each portion in a zip lock bag and freeze it. When you want to feed the fish pull the bag out and thaw the shrimp then drop in the tank.

That sounds like more trouble then simply dropping a fish in the tank. I do feed mine daily tropical flakes with a rotation of beefheart (they've outgrown bloodworm), fish fillet and shrimp. I even toss in some chopped veggie for them for when i'm feeding my pleco (yes they eat it). I just want to add feeders into the diet without doing the quarantine tank thing. Worse case scenario, i waste 20-35 bucks on 2 used tanks and a couple of fish?
 
feeders are cool until you come home one day and there's a 3 inch hook worm trailing from your P's anal orifice (which can be communicated to humans BTW). Then it's not so cool, and you don't ever want feed feeders again. Thats why breeding your own is the way to go.

I think the LFS intentionally gave me tetras from the sick tank when I told them they were going to be snacks for a piranha. People and their moral relativism....:shakehead
 
Diogenes;3444443; said:
feeders are cool until you come home one day and there's a 3 inch hook worm trailing from your P's anal orifice (which can be communicated to humans BTW). Then it's not so cool, and you don't ever want feed feeders again. Thats why breeding your own is the way to go.

I think the LFS intentionally gave me tetras from the sick tank when I told them they were going to be snacks for a piranha. People and their moral relativism....:shakehead

Stop trying to scare people, you can get hook worms from walking on their larve also through the skin but have you had them yet?

Motion to strike that last post your honor LOL :banhim:
 
I breed Convict as well 3 dollars at petsmart easy to tell males from females f-males have red bellys and males dont they breed like rabbits
 
ballinouttacntrol;3444257; said:
That sounds like more trouble then simply dropping a fish in the tank. I do feed mine daily tropical flakes with a rotation of beefheart (they've outgrown bloodworm), fish fillet and shrimp. I even toss in some chopped veggie for them for when i'm feeding my pleco (yes they eat it). I just want to add feeders into the diet without doing the quarantine tank thing. Worse case scenario, i waste 20-35 bucks on 2 used tanks and a couple of fish?

You spend 30 min preparing shrimp, compared to dealing with raising feeders and taking care of 3 or more tanks so yeah its is faster and easier. The Zoe will make the colors pop out before you know it.
 
convicts take forever to grow out... ive had my first and second batch since july and they are just now starting to hit 1.5 inches...
 
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