Feeders

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pdsmith;3444164; said:
yea i know about the hormone. i don't feed live anyways thanks tho i was just letting ppl know that you can feed them if done properly. also you should know that the hormone you are talking about is produced when water quality is bad which it is in an lfs feeder tank. if quarnteed properly in clean water the hormone isn't released. piranhas also make the same hormone thats why ppl that have bad water have slow growing Ps. on a side a friend of mine had a solo caribe for over 7 years that was ONLY fed feeders and it grew to over a foot. the only reason it died was bc the heater broke.
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with all due respect, it's not a hormone, it's an enzyme, and it's called thiaminase, and it has nothing to do with water quality. It breaks down Thiamine (vitamin B1) into 2 molecular parts. Most life on earth requires thiamine to survive. Thaimine deficiency causes disease (ataxic neuropathy) in foxes dining on the entrails of some river fish, to human beings (beriberi) to cattle (cerebrocortical necrosis) which dine on plants high in thiaminase.

Don't feed your P's (or any fish for that matter) a diet consisting of cypronids. It's bad mmmmkay... :nono:


if you ate a steady diet of goldfish, a healthcare professional could use this handy chart to diagnose your illness:
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Gator;3443775; said:
Forget live food and especially raising your own live food its a PIA. Go to the grocery store grab a pound of raw market shrimp come home, peel the shrimp cut the shrimp in small bite size pieces. Now soak the pieces in Kent Zoe freshwater vitamins for 20 min then put each portion in a zip lock bag and freeze it. When you want to feed the fish pull the bag out and thaw the shrimp then drop in the tank. I tried convicts as feeders in my 600 with my piranha and I now have about 25-30 3/4" convicts swimming with my P's. Breeding them gets to be a pain so I even dropped the parents in the tank and they have been in there for about 3 weeks now. If you can get your P's on prepared food it would save you a lot of time, money and hassle of having extra tanks set up just to feed your fish. I only have to by a pound of shrimp every 1 to 1 1/2 months. You don't need to feed your P's live food for every meal. I feed mine Hikari cichlid pellets daily and shrimp every 2 days or so. I've only given my P's 2 live fish since I've had them.
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yea theirs a theard about that, do you know where i can find that theard
 
I don't do it with my RBP tank, but in my 240 (which has SilvDols, ClownLoaches, baby ClownKnife, and otherassorted) I have a ton of floating and planted plastic plants and I keep 25-35 livebearers in there. They reproduce regularly and the fry usually last only a few days. Some have grown older due to all the cover and my feeding the other fish regularly. It is somewhat sustainable. They are a good food source for my baby CK.
 
i breed my own guppies for my sculpin, a 10 gallon planted tank with 5 females and 2 males..with each female poping out 60-70 uneaten babies every 30 ish days..in about 3 months they are big enough to feed, about an inch-half inch, depending on how you feed them.
 
Kaosu;4252171; said:
i breed my own guppies for my sculpin, a 10 gallon planted tank with 5 females and 2 males..with each female poping out 60-70 uneaten babies every 30 ish days..in about 3 months they are big enough to feed, about an inch-half inch, depending on how you feed them.
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I am too breeding guppies to feed to my aro, clown and sting rays. 1 male to every 3 females. I then turn up the temps to 80 deg and feed live black worms. They spit out babies like crazy! One thing about guppies is they are veary hearty too. One thing I learned is to get a fine cover for my filters as the frys get sucked into them.

I am also breeding red cherry shrimp, they are simple too as they are actualy give live birth but are pretty small.
 
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