Feeding?

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There are 8 other small fish, a couple Tetras, 2 Mickeymouses, 2 Molly's, and 2 neon Tetras. Just cheapies the kids picked out. Hopefully they get eaten one day. Lol.

I think I need to do another water change in the morning.

Makes perfect sense about the little fish not enough to get the tank ready. Out of curiosity, it would have been better to have a tank going with big fish? I knew the rays were coming so I bought fish I knew wouldn't hurt the rays.

Yes Nitrite. I got ya. Gonna find all in one test kit tomorrow.

I want worms! I don't like the bloodworms. But it's February in Pittsburgh, I can't find earthworms. Guess I will order them. Should I try frozen shrimp from grocery store instead of mysis? I just want to fatten them up quick. Whatever it takes.

And yes, Cayman rays are huge. The biggest one I held was between 2-3 feet, but there were a bunch swimming around that were huge. Definitely the most amazing experience, standing a half mile away from shore with 30 rays swimming around your feet. Nothing like it in the world. I also swam with them in Half Moon Cay, Bahamas. (Hence their names ;)



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Bottled ammonia is the best way to cycle a tank esp. for large inhabitants. You can try frozen raw shrimp but I'd be surprised if they take it. Worms are the best bet for wild rays and then there's the fun of weaning later.
 
Yep was just reading about weaning in the stickies lol. Well, I'll stick to worms, prob gotta order em. And since they are eating the frozen mysis that too. Thanks for the tips!

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Your enthusiasm is great !
but those rays are the hardest rays to keep alive and they're also the cheapest to buy which tricks people to believe they can take care of them .
I bet out of 100 rays imported not bred 90% are the type you have and don't last more than a few weeks I'm not trying to make you upset it's just the reality of the numbers .
they're definitely not Hystrix
I can't understand what they were hand feeding them at the store they really need only chopped up worms blood worms and black worms nothing more nothing less at this time try to keep an eye on your ammonia nitrite and ph,


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If they are eating, that is great. Keep em eating whatever they like. Keep up with the water changes (will take around a month before the tank is fully cycled) after that 50% per week. I have had several retics over the years. Sold two, lost three (one was in bad shape when I bought it, other two passed because I introduced a sick fish to the tank without quarentining it first). Once eating, they should be fine. Keep asking questions and learning. When you get the 180g set up, do not put them in till it is fully cycled.
 
They were hand feeding the original two, not the two I ended up with. It was frozen mysis shrimp. The same thing they told me to feed lol. It sucks because the fish store is only one of two LFS in the Pittsburgh area that really specializes in odd and exotic fish. And its got an excellent reputation. I was actually referred there from another fish store. And to find out that they gave me a TON of misinformation is so disheartening. I just hope everyone is wrong and my babies will live a long life. I'm sure gonna try!

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Walmart will have earthworms and I.would remove that caslte decoration to give them more room to swim

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add some sodium chloride/salt (make sure it does NOT have anti-caking agent) to the water at 1tbsp/5g after the water change and make sure you replace only to the volume you removed (salt does not evaporate) to help aid with the Ammonia/NitrIte problem till it settles.

The salt will render the Nitrite less lethal on the rays.
 
add some sodium chloride/salt (make sure it does NOT have anti-caking agent) to the water at 1tbsp/5g after the water change and make sure you replace only to the volume you removed (salt does not evaporate) to help aid with the Ammonia/NitrIte problem till it settles.

The salt will render the Nitrite less lethal on the rays.

No. That is far too much salt. A 90 gal tank doesn't need more that one TEAspoon of salt to protect against nitrite. The last thing this tank needs is 18 tablespoons of salt for crying out loud.
 
Just keep working at it, I am sure you are learning a ton really fast. And so far everything your doing seems to be going well. Best wishes with your rays and may they always be fat and happy.
 
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