firefighters watch a house burn because the owner did not pay annual fee.

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^They most likly had the records of who paid. When the records where searched, it showed he didnt pay so he didnt get services.

nikon hmm, i missed that. Of course its not thier job to collect the fee's. They should have put it out but he didnt pay for the services and he didnt get them.

Done. Issue is over. He didnt pay for the services and thus didnt get the services. If i dont pay for you to paint my house my house doesnt get painted
 
Alright for example I work at a store I know the rules if a customer wants to take a display model home. I know they can't and there for I say no, and don't pack it up for them. I know the rules and can pass on that information but I don't have the authority to change them or go around them.
 
Back when Firefighters first started becoming public service people, they used to have metal signs on their doors that signified that they had insurance. And they would only put out those houses but if that house had caught a house on fire next to it without a sign. Then they wouldnt put out that fire. Pretty sad
 
not really. those are the houses that paid for thier services
 
Bhack91;4529360; said:
What makes you think the firefighters fighting the fire had the authority or are even involved in the collecting of fees? The firefighters have thier job, and it isn't collecting fees and deciding on the proticol for the fee system. No matter wether you agree with what happened or not, no one should be attacking the firefighters. That is just ignorant, now a lot of people are finding it easy to say they would of put out the fire anyways if they were there. Simply put there are rules to be followed, if you break them you can get fired especailly in a PR mess and as a government worker. I know I have no pity on this man, that is my personal opinion, and maybe that makes me heartless to some people. But the problem is that people expect there to be someone there to save them no matter what. Without pay a lot of people are saying in this thread, how exactly do you plan to have a police force, ambulance, and firefighters without money? I value those firefighters' livelihoods more than that man's house. What would be a tragedy is if the firefighters' lost thier jobs because they helped the man. They would be then be without thier career/home because they choose to help someone, rather then because they didn't want to pay 75 dollars.

then this firefighter is a damn hero. saving someones live and helping people out is priceless. he went out of his way to do what he truely loves doing. not because hes a slave and only told what to do. your a doctor, nurse you save peoples live. how would you feel to let someone die and knowing you could of saved them? and they died because you refused to help.
 
nikond70s;4529388; said:
then this firefighter is a damn hero. saving someones live and helping people out is priceless. he went out of his way to do what he truely loves doing. not because hes a slave and only told what to do. your a doctor, nurse you save peoples live. how would you feel to let someone die and knowing you could of saved them? and they died because you refused to help.
and they are paid for thier services
 
jcardona1;4529344; said:
Read what I said. Why not let him pay the fee on the spot and restore his fire protection service? If this is all really about $75 fee as you make it seem, they would have gotten their money...so what's the problem?

Because if it was $2000 a year would it be so easy? If he didn't pay for 5 years thats $10,000 dollars. Why would anyone get something for nothing. Why? If he knows it is not covered by his taxes would he not pay the $75 when it was originally instituted. As for paying on the spot. HE DOESN'T have an account to automatically restart the service.

Unless this is about them trying to make an example out of somebody, my comment about them abusing their power still applies. Something about Americans these days, they love to hurt or make people suffer just to prove a point or make an example. It's sick.

How do you make this point if not in this manner? Free loading is free loading. The man knew his decision and took the chances. He lost. It is about the community that relies on this service. He doesn't pay then the next guy says why should I pay and so on. Now the community isn't paying and now they have no fire service. Everyone in that community will pay the fee and be done with it.

I'm surprised things like this still happen in an advanced country like the US. I'd understand if this was some undeveloped third world country, but in this country? Come on now. There are certain services that should NOT be refused because of money. Law enforcement, fire, ambulance, health, etc. These are basic needs that should be provided to citizens of this country. People should not have to die or lose their homes to fire because of some idiotic bureaucratic policies.

It is because of backwards thinking. The government is giving away so much people begin to feel entitled to what the neighbor in this case had. He had a fire department available to him because he payed his fee. Some things the government should provide. Law enforcement yes.
Now fire in this case it was a no. your neighborhood it might be in your taxes.
Ambulance we pay for that even with the insurance I have.
Health... Are you kidding me. Why not pay my car insurance to or my water bill. Hey that is an idea all water should be free to and food ya lets get free food.

How is the government paying for all this?


Reading about things like this makes me shake my head in disgust.

Makes me think how stupid some people are knowing what can happen and not managing a home to insure your family is safe and protected for $75 dollars for a year. $.021 a day. Really think of what the MAN did NOT do for HIS FAMILY. what is more disgusting?

Just saying is all.
 
nikond70s;4529388; said:
then this firefighter is a damn hero. saving someones live and helping people out is priceless. he went out of his way to do what he truely loves doing. not because hes a slave and only told what to do. your a doctor, nurse you save peoples live. how would you feel to let someone die and knowing you could of saved them? and they died because you refused to help.

All they would have saved was a house...not a life. My opinion would of changed in that situation. In my opinion the firefighters' moral obligations are to save the people if there were people in the house, but my opinion of thier legal obligation would stay the same. So in simple terms they may get fired, but I would expect them to save some if they were in the house. As thats what I would do in that situation, but in this situation the man didn't pay to protect his house and the firefighters didn't save it.
 
LoganBlade;4529394;4529394 said:
Just saying is all.
"As for paying on the spot. HE DOESN'T have an account to automatically restart the service."

:screwy: Dumbest thing I've read so far. I stopped after this and couldn't even read the rest of your comments.
 
I think that is a bit wrong.

But still, they didn't pay. You can't expect to receive a service without paying for it.
 
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