firefighters watch a house burn because the owner did not pay annual fee.

[nikond70s]

and they are paid for thier services

yeah by the government or hospital not by that person. the man offered to pay all expenses to the fire department. still they didnt do anything. but my point was, if you were a doctor/nurse its YOUR job to help regardless pay or not. its only right not about money. so you would be happy if you get in a bad accident and about to die but have no insurance or money for hospital bills and they refused to help you because you have no insurance or money correct?

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

see below

"As for paying on the spot. HE DOESN'T have an account to automatically restart the service."

Dumbest thing I've read so far. I stopped after this and couldn't even read the rest of your comments.

then u missed some good points.

Let me put it this way.

Ur electric gets cut off cause you dont pay ur bill. A guy come to shut it off at the meter(yeah thats not how it works i think). You tell him plz dont that youll give him the money for the electric. He has no authority to turn the power back on. YOu have to contact the right people. He tells you no.

 

[balton777]

then this firefighter is a damn hero. saving someones live and helping people out is priceless. he went out of his way to do what he truely loves doing. not because hes a slave and only told what to do. your a doctor, nurse you save peoples live. how would you feel to let someone die and knowing you could of saved them? and they died because you refused to help.

No one died, no one was in jeopardy. He would have been a hero out on the street when he lost his job and the bank took his house and car due to non-payment. If someone was going to die, I'm sure they would have tried to save them.

 

[LoganBlade]

yes, BUT, as soon as you pay the bill and any late fees, the service is re-established immediately. Why couldn't they just let him pay the fee on the spot and put out the fire? Because they're a bunch of douchebags with a chip on their shoulder who love to abuse their power. There's NO reason not to let him pay the fee and put out the fire. It was a bad decision made on whoever was in charge. Things like this make me ashamed to be human.

See you use reference to something that had an account established. I just used your logic.

 

[biohazardcustomz]

my brother is an EMT and a firefighter for a local rural community. they have a policy somewhat similar to this but if something happened to a house that services were not paid for they would STILL put out the fire and then bill the person for the service. the people who paid in advance do not get billed. and the bills are much more expensive than the annual fee. but they are not allowed to physically watch something burn. its not ethical. what if it was a car that was on fire. would they look up the registration and see if the owners address was paid in full before they put it out? as jcardona said its simply abuse of power. it wasnt like the firefighters had to divide up that 75 bucks between themselves as payment. so the no service for no pay excuse doesn't work here.

to the people that think its what he gets, picture it being one of your family members or friends or even yourself. i know i know. you all must be perfect. but its ok. while your on here defending these monsters, that guys looking for a place to live with absolutely nothing in his possession because some egotistical maniacs thought it would be ok to stand there and watch his home burn. what a great world we live in

 

[SemperFish]

I have no doubt that had someone been inside the firefighters would have gone in and risked their lives to save that person. Thats what firemen do and thats why they are heroes. Noone was in danger though so why should they risk their lives to help the douche that was basically trying to take advantage of them.

As for all you people that are shocked and say you cant believe they make people pay for services like fire and law enforcement - guess what? we all do.
These people and their service either come from fees like this OR taxes OR both. Fire engines dont run on good ideas and fire fighters cant feed their kids moon beams and fairy dust. One way or another we pay for these services, unless apparently they give you an option. then people try and take advantage of the system.
Medical care - yeah we pay for that too.
This guy made a concious decision to take a risk and he lost. Ofcourse he offered to pay all the costs of the call - his house was on fire. Doesnt mean he couldve or wouldve. If I dont have car insurance and I get in an accident, I cant call an agent right then and get insurance to cover it!
To summarize;
Firemen - great guys!
Public Services - Not free
The guy whos house burned down - Idiot

 

[MadRussian79]

yeah by the government

No by the tax payers.

Have you ever had the joy of comparing a good private hospital to that **** they call public hospitals. In England and Canada too BTW, try it and tell me which one you would rather go to.

Fire, Police and Medical are NOT civil rights.

Still think the decision to stand and watch was an act of flagrant stupidity. Not sure it's even abuse of power just plain stupid.

 

[jlnguyen74]

Jurisdiction is irrelavent. I am a retired firefighter and we had a passion for the job. We even got into fist fights with other firefighters for jumping our working fire calls. I know there are some firefighters on this forum and they will tell you, a real firefighter has one job, and it is not collecting money or bickering about politics. When there is a fire, we put the wet stuff on the red stuff. Anything less and you are not a firefighter, period.

Worker comp or life insurance won't cover passion! If any fire fighter gets hurt, or worst, loss his/her life for putting out that fire, he/she's on his/her own. You got it all wrong. They didn't collect the money... That's why when the burnt house owner called 911, they refused, although he offered to pay all the expense involved. They were only on the scene, because of the neighbor house called 911, and bound by their duty, since that guy paid his fee, they were there to make sure his house won't get burn down.

 

[jlnguyen74]

I have no doubt that had someone been inside the firefighters would have gone in and risked their lives to save that person. Thats what firemen do and thats why they are heroes. Noone was in danger though so why should they risk their lives to help the douche that was basically trying to take advantage of them.

As for all you people that are shocked and say you cant believe they make people pay for services like fire and law enforcement - guess what? we all do.
These people and their service either come from fees like this OR taxes OR both. Fire engines dont run on good ideas and fire fighters cant feed their kids moon beams and fairy dust. One way or another we pay for these services, unless apparently they give you an option. then people try and take advantage of the system.
Medical care - yeah we pay for that too.
This guy made a concious decision to take a risk and he lost. Ofcourse he offered to pay all the costs of the call - his house was on fire. Doesnt mean he couldve or wouldve. If I dont have car insurance and I get in an accident, I cant call an agent right then and get insurance to cover it!
To summarize;
Firemen - great guys!
Public Services - Not free
The guy whos house burned down - Idiot

Very well said... Forget about "If this" and "if that..." There was no human or animal in the burnt house, so just for get all the "if," because "if" that guy paid his fee, there wouldn't be a story to discuss here!

 

[MadRussian79]

Very well said... Forget about "If this" and "if that..." There was no human or animal in the burnt house, so just for get all the "if," because "if" that guy paid his fee, there wouldn't be a story to discuss here!

Actually 1 cat and 3 dogs, so that makes their decision even stupider from a PR aspect. Though given their response time the animals were probably dead before anyone got there.

BTW I'm sure that the guys on the scene were not responsible for making the call. The chief isn't a firefighter he's a desk jockey.