firefighters watch a house burn because the owner did not pay annual fee.

[jlnguyen74]

If you do research, I'm sure you will find out that many years ago, when EMT show up at an accident that happen in incoporate area, they will determine which jurisdiction/city the accident belongs to, and if it's not in their jurisdiction, they won't provide service. It did happen like that, until the law pass that whoever EMT get on the scence first have to provide service.

Are you kidding me. I have worked on trucks and responded to accidents and never once has the subject ever arose what jurisdiction it happened in. This is the most simple argument ever. You work as a civil servant in the EMS system you help and you are at the scene. Why does this man have to suffer because some idiot decided to tell the responding team that he did'nt pay his dues,let it burn. I'd like to see that happen in VA. Dc fire dept get a bad rap because they have slow response times and they dont always give the appropriate care but they show up and they get it done. I bet you would'nt want to live in that county, nor would any minded person who knows the FF dnt Fight fires. Nuff said

Mind to clarify whether you're an EMT or just a truck driver? Those are so different... If you're a truck driver, you wouldn't know who to treat and what to treat... You only know how to drive to the accident scene! Base on what you've posted, my money is you are just a truck driver! "Nuff said"

 

[breal2001]

Had a life been at risk it would be a different scenario. Saving a life is a moral obligation especially for medical personnel such as yourself. In most places firefighters, EMTs and Cops are paid by taxes to protect everybody - not where this happened though. I also know that my Navy Copsman cannot render all types of medical care to civillians, they are constrained by rules.
Again I say, the firefighters on the scene didnt arbitrarily decide not to fight the fire. They have rules and regulations they have to follow. If your company policy said that you could not use certain procedures or equipment to treat someone would you do it anyways? What would the consequences be? There are ofcourse all kinds of hypothetical exceptions to the rules but I learned along time ago that if youre not on the scene of a crisis you really cant second guess peoples decison making. Ask any cop, EMT of firefighter about that.

Im just saying people who are going to respond to emergencies tend to respond. Maybe there were other factors at hand but this is a civiliian matter and not being handed down orders by higher powers any firefighter will tell you if it is on fire put it out, this is the bottom line about the whole matter. regardless I'm sure something will be done about this now. You do have a valid point and it is good for healthy debate.

 

[LoganBlade]

As a soldier you should'nt be putting up for these irresponsible people, your telling me If i dnt pay my taxes along with everyone else, your not going on the front line to protect your country? Your not going to protect yourself and fellow squadies from insurgants? your nutz. You get paid for it regardless wheter you fight or not right? so do the firefighters. I'm glad I live in the best county in the best state in the best country in the world and not sum bum f**k county with a bunch of stupid rednecks who breed with thier own cousins.

He isn't fighting for the people that don't pay taxes he is fighting for those of us that do. The no paying taxes/fees bastards just benefit from him keeping us safe.

Plus as he stated. He follows rules and orders given to him from his chain of command.

 

[nikond70s]

after reading more of the story. it only gets worse. it appears that the owner have previously paid the fee's. paid last year the year before that etc... but forgot to pay this year. but what really is sad is that....the firefighters does NOT have to come by if you didnt pay the fee's which means if there where live endangered and trapped in the house then your outta luck and burn to death. the only reason why the firefighter came to the scene was because the neighbors that paid the fee's of course worried the fire would spread to their house. so if there was people in the house they would of died.

watched the video.

 

[breal2001]

I am actually a volunteer EMT with my local FD so I am responding to victims. Also I am currently obtaining my EMT license. My point is I have been out there and seen alot of blood and guts. Never has any of my guys ever even thought about not helping because they are legally bound to act. So your comment about truck driver is very unfounded and I take offense to it simply because my hands have saved lives. Have yours?

 

[SemperFish]

As a soldier you should'nt be putting up for these irresponsible people, your telling me If i dnt pay my taxes along with everyone else, your not going on the front line to protect your country? Your not going to protect yourself and fellow squadies from insurgants? your nutz. You get paid for it regardless wheter you fight or not right? so do the firefighters. I'm glad I live in the best county in the best state in the best country in the world and not sum bum f**k county with a bunch of stupid rednecks who breed with thier own cousins.

Im a Marine, not a soldier. Your analogy doesnt hold up. As a Marine I have a great deal of respect for the system. You start bending rules and things fall apart. Now I dont represent everyone in the Marine Corps when I say this but...I didnt fight insurgents for my country, or the paycheck, or religion or notions of ideology. I went because the Marine Corps told me to go and i did my best to bring all my Marines home. I could care less if you pay taxes or not.
Yes I get paid whether Im in the fight or not - that doesnt mean I go and fight every fight. I fight who Im told and if I go off on my own and kill people I cant say "hey Im a Marine, killing is what I do!" Id be in prison.
The firefighters were told not to put out the fire - so they didnt. They followed their orders or directives. They did nothing wrong.

This guy expected something for free - nothing is free except free will.

 

[breal2001]

I salute you marine, we are all civiilians and things in the military are different. Im sure your good at what you do. Dont take me the wrong way here I understand chain of command etc. Im sure you've had to do things you did'nt want to but did. That is understandable but the story says the FF were at the scene and watched the house burn down. Regardless of fees paid or not thats what they are paid to do. I also want to thank you for your service and your commitment to protecting our borders.

Im not even an American

 

[tomago]

That's like not paying for insurance, getting in an accident they saying you'll pay the $100 for the month... I'm glad they let it burn!

 

[SumoNinja]

It isn't the firefighter's fault the man didn't pay the fee or that the fee exsists in the first place. The blame should be dealt to who ever set the 75 dollar fee in the first place, if you feel there is someone to blame. I personally don't believe there is, from the way I understand it there are some people on property not covered by the fire department. They bought this property and I am sure they were aware before they bought wether they were in the jurisdiction or not. These people were offered a 75 dollar fee to be covered even though they were not in the jurisdiction. And it was thier responsibility to be prepared for such a situation, especially when such an offer was made so readily availible.

i agree with this, unfortunately for the guy and his family whose house burned down though,.........

what i wanna know is, if the firefighters just went anyways regardless of their jurisdiction, would they have been fired?

and would they still ignore if someone was trapped inside? did they not go knowing that no one was inside?

one thing's for sure, the dude aint' gonna forget to pay the $75 anymore

 

[MadRussian79]

I could care less if you pay taxes or not.

Um might want to reevaluate that statement. Unless you want to be fighting insuregents with harsh language.

As far as animals in the house? Well first it's a giant PR **** up, which is basically what that dog tossing idiot got booted from the Corp for. Every organization is subject to PR. Second, if they aren't supposed to put their human lives on the line to save pets for free what does the fee change? Either a pet is property and no human life should ever be endangered to save it or it's more and it should be treated accordingly.

BTW I was reply to the quoted passage where someone stated that there were no animals in the house. Lose of property is suitable chastisement for his stupidity, losing his pets is excessive.

Mind to clarify whether you're an EMT or just a truck driver?

In Boston where I was an EMT there was no such distinction. No idea that some places did that.