firefighters watch a house burn because the owner did not pay annual fee.

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I watched Iraqis kill other Iraqis while I had orders not to interfere. Did it suck? Hell yes it did. but one of the decisions we made, or that we made for our Marines, was were we going to be emotional or were we going to be professional.
I have no doubt in my mind that had someone been in the house those firefighters wouldve gone and tried their very best to help. But the knucklehead who lived there was on the street pleading with them to save his house.
 
SemperFish;4529620; said:
I have no doubt in my mind that had someone been in the house those firefighters wouldve gone and tried their very best to help. But the knucklehead who lived there was on the street pleading with them to save his house.

They would not have showed up at all. So no they would not have. They only showed when the neighbors who had paid the fee called.
 
vladfloroff;4529634; said:
They would not have showed up at all. So no they would not have. They only showed when the neighbors who had paid the fee called.

this is what i'm wondering. did they NOT show KNOWING that no life was in danger?

or would they not show regardless if someone was burning alive?
 
It makes no sense that this area never had fire protection coverage. If it is known that there is a human population in area it should be covered period!!!!!!!!!!!! If there were no humans in this particular area, would they let the woods stay on fire and continue to spread???? THE ANSWER IS NO!!!!!! If people don't have the money, especially now with job loss, etc...they should be covered!!!! :swear::swear::swear::swear::swear: H*LL, his taxes can reflect if this man can afford to pay the $75.
 
Rays of Sunshine;4529708; said:
It makes no sense that this area never had fire protection coverage. If it is known that there is a human population in area it should be covered period!!!!!!!!!!!! If there were no humans in this particular area, would they let the woods stay on fire and continue to spread???? THE ANSWER IS NO!!!!!! If people don't have the money, especially now with job loss, etc...they should be covered!!!! :swear::swear::swear::swear::swear: H*LL, his taxes can reflect if this man can afford to pay the $75.

It never came down to whether he could or couldn't afford it - all he admits is that he chose not to pay it with the expectation that they would put out a fire anyways. This mindset negates the fee altogether in a juridiction that has deemed it necessary.

This is how examples are made.
 
Madding;4529731; said:
It never came down to whether he could or couldn't afford it - all he admits is that he chose not to pay it with the expectation that they would put out a fire anyways. This mindset negates the fee altogether in a juridiction that has deemed it necessary.

This is how examples are made.

Glad Im not alone here. Me made a choice and now he has to live with the consequences. The world is a cold harsh place and charity doesnt rain down from the sky.
 
Madding;4529731; said:
It never came down to whether he could or couldn't afford it - all he admits is that he chose not to pay it with the expectation that they would put out a fire anyways. This mindset negates the fee altogether in a juridiction that has deemed it necessary.

This is how examples are made.

SemperFish;4529765; said:
Glad Im not alone here. Me made a choice and now he has to live with the consequences. The world is a cold harsh place and charity doesnt rain down from the sky.

i haven't even opened the link in the OP but i've read this story elsewhere. from what i read, he says he forgot to pay. i haven't seen anywhere that he admitted to not paying. if this is true then i feel less bad for the guy

and a fire tax would work better than a fee. I think that would be the solution.
 
Madding;4529731; said:
It never came down to whether he could or couldn't afford it - all he admits is that he chose not to pay it with the expectation that they would put out a fire anyways. This mindset negates the fee altogether in a juridiction that has deemed it necessary.

This is how examples are made.
EXACTLY. he thought they would do it anyway. He even said so himself. SUPRISE!! they didnt.
 
SemperFish;4529765; said:
Glad Im not alone here. Me made a choice and now he has to live with the consequences. The world is a cold harsh place and charity doesnt rain down from the sky.

actually it does, red cross, what have you. they aren't paid by you for the help they just help.

the fact that you can equate your profession which places you as a weapon in the same regard as a firefighter which places them as protectors and public servants is laughable.

yes by all means if you are a marine do as you're told, but believe it or not we pay our firefighters to think also. and when they go home to their families in their houses their priciples will be meaningless. you can have your technicalities, I'll keep my morals, after all I was not raised by a family in which 45 of my family memebers fought and died for this country to have a damn 75$ annual fee seperate right and wrong.

if you want to swap war stories I'll direct you to my grandfather and his service in WWII and korea, he raised my father with better morals than this and in trun my father raised me with better morals than this.

keep your principles, I was raised with morals.
 
yogurt_21;4529880; said:
actually it does, red cross, what have you. they aren't paid by you for the help they just help.

the fact that you can equate your profession which places you as a weapon in the same regard as a firefighter which places them as protectors and public servants is laughable.

yes by all means if you are a marine do as you're told, but believe it or not we pay our firefighters to think also. and when they go home to their families in their houses their priciples will be meaningless. you can have your technicalities, I'll keep my morals, after all I was not raised by a family in which 45 of my family memebers fought and died for this country to have a damn 75$ annual fee seperate right and wrong.

if you want to swap war stories I'll direct you to my grandfather and his service in WWII and korea, he raised my father with better morals than this and in trun my father raised me with better morals than this.

keep your principles, I was raised with morals.


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I highly doubt you would all have the same opinions had this happened to a family member or close friend. $75 fee or no fee, right or wrong, against the rules or not, what took place here was wrong.
 
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