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If he is alone in there, please pull that heater out. You are actually speeding up his life cycle significantly and shortening his life span with the heater.

Turtle sticks eh? That's funny. Feed him peas for 3 days straight every few weeks any way, its really good for his digestive track.

If you really want the option of having a light on him, try adding some floating plants like duck weed or water sprite. Both grow really easy with regular lights and will provide the goldie some shade.

My goldies are bigger, but they are older too. They live indoors in the summer and on an un heated, but insulated, porch all winter. Last week there was actually enough ice on the top of their water to set an apple on it, but the filter is still running. The outside temps were in the single digits, the water was obviously just at 32 degrees. Mine breed every year.

Keep in mind that the max size of your fish is about 18", he's not done yet. His growth will slow soon though.
 
kdrun76;3786614; said:
If he is alone in there, please pull that heater out. You are actually speeding up his life cycle significantly and shortening his life span with the heater.

Turtle sticks eh? That's funny. Feed him peas for 3 days straight every few weeks any way, its really good for his digestive track.

If you really want the option of having a light on him, try adding some floating plants like duck weed or water sprite. Both grow really easy with regular lights and will provide the goldie some shade.

My goldies are bigger, but they are older too. They live indoors in the summer and on an un heated, but insulated, porch all winter. Last week there was actually enough ice on the top of their water to set an apple on it, but the filter is still running. The outside temps were in the single digits, the water was obviously just at 32 degrees. Mine breed every year.

Keep in mind that the max size of your fish is about 18", he's not done yet. His growth will slow soon though.

Tanks thats some helpful info. I will def remove the heater and do the peas. Thanks
 
All my goldfish are "rescued" feeders. My wife would always try to save the cute ones. It was fun to watch her freak out and race to catch the guys as my red devil tried to beat her to the punch. I will try and get some pics up so you can see. They are in a tank with some tropicals that were rescued from hostile tanks mates as well.
 
SemperFish;3786926; said:
All my goldfish are "rescued" feeders. My wife would always try to save the cute ones. It was fun to watch her freak out and race to catch the guys as my red devil tried to beat her to the punch. I will try and get some pics up so you can see. They are in a tank with some tropicals that were rescued from hostile tanks mates as well.

Looks like your goldies need rescuing again. Goldfish and tropicals can't live together due to temperature differences.
 
kdrun76;3786941; said:
Looks like your goldies need rescuing again. Goldfish and tropicals can't live together due to temperature differences.
depends on the type, long body types can stand the heat. they can live in ponds in the summer were the water gets 90 degrees(f). really at high temperatures it becomes more of a oxygenation problem with long body goldfish. if theres enough oxygen in the tank they should be ok
 
mgk;3787664; said:
depends on the type, long body types can stand the heat. they can live in ponds in the summer were the water gets 90 degrees(f). really at high temperatures it becomes more of a oxygenation problem with long body goldfish. if theres enough oxygen in the tank they should be ok


Survival is one goal. Its not mine. I prefer "thrive" as a goal. At temperatures over 70 life span is significantly shortened, disease rate is significantly increased and the overall health and fecundity of the fish is greatly reduced.

The same fish can survive 5 years in a 55 gallon tank too. But when you figure their lifespan is 25-30 years, that 5 year old fish will have died having only survived 17-20% of its life span.


FYI: the "long body types" are the same species as all the other "body types" and they ALL prefer water 65 degrees or cooler.
 
kdrun76;3788111; said:
FYI: the "long body types" are the same species as all the other "body types" and they ALL prefer water 65 degrees or cooler.
i was responding to your statement which claimed they would die in the higher temp tank, which they wont.

the short body types, are more delicate they have different needs. its like comparing people with osteoporosis to football players.

im sure the fish are better off in the other tank then being fed to larger fish even if the tank is not perfect
 
kdrun76;3786941; said:
Looks like your goldies need rescuing again. Goldfish and tropicals can't live together due to temperature differences.

The tank actually started out as a cold water tank with rescued tropicals in it. its sort of a oddball tank. No heating whatsoever and ive got goldfish, koi, bala sharks and a angel fish along with a pleco and a pictus cat. its like the island of misfit toys. Unfortunately I dont have the option of setting up any other tanks at this time. All the tropical types have been in there and healthy for about two years now. Im hoping that I will be moving soon and be able to give them all a proper home. Im amazed they lasted this long.
 
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