Fisherman Arrested For Shooting Sea Lion In The Head

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good on him. Seals are PITA. especially in the harbors. theres way to many of them. they need to open season on them. 400 every other year for 6 years (3 seasons) should do for a good start. and Cormarants (those damn birds). they can go too. think of how much meat an adult seal would put in the freezer...
 
chefjamesscott;3640954; said:
OK shall we then open up the can of debate about how man has totally messed with natural habitat thereby forcing animals further and further in the search for what they need to live!!!

I would think not! As such would surely degrade into a slingfest!!!!!! Especially since it seems wanton disregard for an animals right to life is okay as evidenced by your previous posts!

Edit:And the Base of the Bonneville Dam is such a natural occurence too

it is a slaughter, they went to the dam on their own free will... the seals do not need that much food. the fish stack up there and the seals come in for an easy meal, killing thousands of fish, barely eating a whole one each time. its like going to a park and throwing a loaf of bread in the pond at the same place each day, after awhile all the carp, bluegill and ducks will be stacked up waiting for a free meal. they have plenty of food to eat elsewhere, but its a free, easy meal. look at trawlers, all the bycatch gets thrown behind the boat, you can find thousands of Cobia, jack, sharks, barracuda, snapper ect lined up for a free meal. these fish would not be there otherwise. sure, behind a trawler they clean up all the excess and its not as bad, but say we had bullsharks in california, and they found the bonneville dam, in no time you would have hundreds stacked up each year awaiting the migration. hopefully eating a few seals while there, but its just the same.

same with farmers. they have chickens and sheep and such. the animals are in mass numbers in a confined area, wolves, coyotes, eagles, and hawks all see this as a free easy meal. but farmers are allowed to protect their stocks, fisherman arent.
 
nativelover;3641550; said:
good on him. Seals are PITA. especially in the harbors. theres way to many of them. they need to open season on them. 400 every other year for 6 years (3 seasons) should do for a good start. and Cormarants (those damn birds). they can go too. think of how much meat an adult seal would put in the freezer...

yes this guys right if a animal annoys u just cull it till its not a problem.. good thing animals carnt do the same a
 
syndicate;3641588; said:
yes this guys right if a animal annoys u just cull it till its not a problem.. good thing animals carnt do the same a

work in any hatchery, stock pond, or stock pens at any harbor... they tear the hell out of the White seabass pens and any bait barge. since noise makers and fireworks cant be used anymore, seagulls, pelicans, and seals swarm any pen in the harbor... try working at one, you'll change your mind.

or just go fishing at any kelp bed. you'll wish you had a .44 on your side.
 
nativelover;3641558; said:
it is a slaughter, they went to the dam on their own free will... the seals do not need that much food. the fish stack up there and the seals come in for an easy meal, killing thousands of fish, barely eating a whole one each time. its like going to a park and throwing a loaf of bread in the pond at the same place each day, after awhile all the carp, bluegill and ducks will be stacked up waiting for a free meal. they have plenty of food to eat elsewhere, but its a free, easy meal. look at trawlers, all the bycatch gets thrown behind the boat, you can find thousands of Cobia, jack, sharks, barracuda, snapper ect lined up for a free meal. these fish would not be there otherwise. sure, behind a trawler they clean up all the excess and its not as bad, but say we had bullsharks in california, and they found the bonneville dam, in no time you would have hundreds stacked up each year awaiting the migration. hopefully eating a few seals while there, but its just the same.

same with farmers. they have chickens and sheep and such. the animals are in mass numbers in a confined area, wolves, coyotes, eagles, and hawks all see this as a free easy meal. but farmers are allowed to protect their stocks, fisherman arent.


That's actually a very sound , very logical argument.
However, if history's taught us anything, it's that behind every unnatural occurance in nature is human involvement at the root.
Bull Sharks have been terrorizing Boa Viagem beach in Recife, Brazil for 10 years because a seaport was built over the mangrove habitat in which they used as nurseries, Located an hour away from Recife.
Cobra attacks in India have increased exponentially over the years , more than two thirds of the attacks occur in the home and that's due to urban expansion. unsupervised commercial fishing destroys coral , which exodizes marine life there ,greenhouse gases punching holes into the ozone cause global warming which is already making life hell for polar bears today seeing as the sea ice they need to hunt fish is too frail to walk on , so 1+1 = "we F'd up"

If those seals are not where they are supposed to be , that's our fault and you can bank on it.
 
nativelover;3641617; said:
try working at one, you'll change your mind.

or just go fishing at any kelp bed. you'll wish you had a .44 on your side.

Interesting. I had heard about this here, but did not hear they arrested someone ~

I lived in Okinawa for a few years!
 
KindredSpirit;3641668; said:
Interesting. I had heard about this here, but did not hear they arrested someone ~

I lived in Okinawa for a few years!


ive been here almost 7 months, and there is no conservation. theres literally nothing left, atleast to my knowledge from reports and articles of the past. ive found a few places to catch decent fish, see wildlife, and find original plantlife. but most is gone. most fish barely make it past thier juvi state before being caught or dyeing, the snakes and birds are over run. theres alot of bats, but im sure there used to be more... or maybe less, due to more predators in the past.

sure we have some stupid laws and regs in the states, but i can see where it comes from just by bring here. ill be in Thailand in a month, i bet its worse there.
 
nativelover;3641558;3641558 said:
it is a slaughter, they went to the dam on their own free will... the seals do not need that much food. the fish stack up there and the seals come in for an easy meal, killing thousands of fish, barely eating a whole one each time. its like going to a park and throwing a loaf of bread in the pond at the same place each day, after awhile all the carp, bluegill and ducks will be stacked up waiting for a free meal. they have plenty of food to eat elsewhere, but its a free, easy meal. look at trawlers, all the bycatch gets thrown behind the boat, you can find thousands of Cobia, jack, sharks, barracuda, snapper ect lined up for a free meal. these fish would not be there otherwise. sure, behind a trawler they clean up all the excess and its not as bad, but say we had bullsharks in california, and they found the bonneville dam, in no time you would have hundreds stacked up each year awaiting the migration. hopefully eating a few seals while there, but its just the same.

same with farmers. they have chickens and sheep and such. the animals are in mass numbers in a confined area, wolves, coyotes, eagles, and hawks all see this as a free easy meal. but farmers are allowed to protect their stocks, fisherman arent.
NativeLover: You hit the nail on the head...the sea lions that hang around here are lazy and looking for an easy meal. Yes you can debate all day long on root causes, however the fact of the matter is that these sea lions can eat over 1000lbs of fish a month (endagered protected native fish) with "wanton disregard for an animals life". Now you get 40-50 of these lazy sea lions in an area with heavy pools of Salmon and Steehead (below the dam)...well do the math.....Slaughter!
 
This is talking of the past..but this wouldn't be the case if human development didn't mess up the natural balance. The easy solution is to cull the heard through organized hunt. Well its a pathetic lazy idea since its only going to get worse as development expands. Like around here in suburbia...small tracts of land are kept as open space between housing developments. Apparently some people think the deer will stay in these confined areas. Then they get hit by cars, eat all the vegetation, and its just a fustercluck after that isn't it? All avoidable if better planned out, but that takes time and money and who cares about the environment anyways?
 
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