Flowerhorn colour enhancer food ?

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Market shrimp actually have pretty low levels of astaxanthin, which is the key substance for enhancing the color red in fish.
 
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Interestingly, when I was at chatuchak market, most if not all using blue background and white light

Opposite of what you mentioned
 
If you are referring to my comment, I specifically said ..... online. Obviously in person, at the market, one would be able to see exactly what's what.
 
Just give him some quality pellets and he should be alright. Okiko quick red, grand sumo red, north fin. I wouldn't buy into any of the marketing gimmicks out there for some of the more expensive color enhancing foods out there. And every fish is different. A quality diet and frequent water changes will help bring out his best colors and pearling. Some fish have the genes to have pearls and color all the way across the head and some don't. Regardless you have a beautiful FH and should be proud of it.
 
And what do you think about solmon to make the flowerhorn red ? I heard that also solmon includes natural asthaxanthin.
 
If you are referring to my comment, I specifically said ..... online. Obviously in person, at the market, one would be able to see exactly what's what.

Well.. They could still use red NAN light to display the fish to portray the fish being more red than it actually is but instead they use white...
 
Well.. They could still use red NAN light to display the fish to portray the fish being more red than it actually is but instead they use white...


I think that you are missing the point. Online vendors use this as a practice to deceive unwary buyers, that cannot see the fish in person.

This is not news to anyone that has been involved in the hobby for more than a few minutes. Just take a look at how many online vendors in SE Asia promote their "red" fish. This has been a common practice for many years, and still is. In person, such as at the market you mentioned in Bangkok, it would be quite obvious to the buyer as to what type of lighting etc is being used, so no real point in attempting deception, better to show the fish in person, exactly as it is in real life, under normal lighting.


Armutlu, there are many commercial pellets available that contain far higher levels of Astaxanthin that one will typically find in salmon, shrimp, etc. Some of those brands have already been mentioned, Hikari Blood Red Parrot+, Grand Sumo Red, and I will add New Life Spectrum Ultra Red. Those foods will contain FAR higher levels of Astaxanthin, along with numerous other color enhancers, and nutrients, than one will get from feeding seafood. If your fish still isn't red enough for you, put a NAN light over it. lol
 
I think that you are missing the point. Online vendors use this as a practice to deceive unwary buyers, that cannot see the fish in person.

This is not news to anyone that has been involved in the hobby for more than a few minutes. Just take a look at how many online vendors in SE Asia promote their "red" fish. This has been a common practice for many years, and still is. In person, such as at the market you mentioned in Bangkok, it would be quite obvious to the buyer as to what type of lighting etc is being used, so no real point in attempting deception, better to show the fish in person, exactly as it is in real life, under normal lighting.


Armutlu, there are many commercial pellets available that contain far higher levels of Astaxanthin that one will typically find in salmon, shrimp, etc. Some of those brands have already been mentioned, Hikari Blood Red Parrot+, Grand Sumo Red, and I will add New Life Spectrum Ultra Red. Those foods will contain FAR higher levels of Astaxanthin, along with numerous other color enhancers, and nutrients, than one will get from feeding seafood. If your fish still isn't red enough for you, put a NAN light over it. lol

Wouldn't the buyer ask for a picture of the fish without NAN light?
 
Yeah, if only it was that easy when buying live fish sight unseen from online vendors based overseas. Many novice buyers don't even realize what happened until the fish shows up at their door. These are the same people that come to this forum asking what grade their Flowerhorn is, or their supposed SKKP, or SRT, etc. Many vendors of hybrid fish will tell potential buyers whatever they want to hear.

Classic example of what I am referring to, and this from a vendor based in the USA, who stated; "These beautiful fish are meant to be raise under led aro light to show and maintain their color."

https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/my-red-mammon-medium-size.587519/

So not only do they show best under NAN lighting, they actually need NAN lighting to maintain their color. Say what? lol

Unfortunately, many novices dipping their toes into the world of red mammons often believe whatever they read, especially if the vendor appears to deal in fairly high quality fish. Plenty of people have gotten screwed over the years buying fish online that later don't appear to be nearly as colorful as in the sellers advertisements.


But this is getting away from the OP's question, and I don't see any reason to derail this thread any further regarding red lighting. Using NAN lights is fine for personal viewing, as is red tape, or anything else that floats your boat. I'm just not a fan of vendors who use these techniques, and don't state same up front.
 
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