Dont need a dog to protect my house thanks. Yeah ive obv stated that I think its great for dogs to maul children. Great arguement. Its your right to be the way you are. Its my right to laugh at you and think your not the smartest. Just recently on a reservation that does not have a dog problem, a lil boy was mauled and killed. A damn sad thing. The dogs; two huskies. Bred for???? Fighting? No pulling and stamina. But unlike other dogs they havent been culled for bad behaviour over history. As long as they pulled and had great stamina. So the huskies also missed your memo on breeding dogs for fighting. Pitbulls have been culled for the last hundred or more years if they attack ppl. Thats why its so damn rare for pitbulls to attack humans unprovoked.. If pittbulls were more likely to attack ppl than other dogs then L.A. would have a few child maulings a day.(this is not to lessen the ones that do happen) There are thousands upon thousands of of pitties put in horrible cases that never ever act out. Ever. Only the handful that do make the news. Its a great story. It feeds sheep like you a steady diet that you need to live.
for those who dont like pitbulls !!!
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You don't know a pit until you have lived with one, raised one, watched it grow up..
MANY of you are forgetting that pitbulls were bred to dog/bull fight, but to remain loyal to their owner. They are a guardian breed after all. Pitbulls can show animal aggression, but they should NEVER show human aggression. They weren't called Nanny Dogs for nothing back in the 30's.
I have a 3 yr old nephew.. his best friend? a pitbull named Vick. Vick gets along with the cat in their home, as well as a turtle. Vick will bark and growl if a stranger tried to come in the door unless my brother tells him it's ok. Then he's wagging his tail and trying to lick your face off.
People will always have back and forth opinions on this breed. But no matter what happens, all I know is that I would fight for my pits if I had to; just like they would for me. They are my 4 legged guardians.
If you don't like the breed; that's fine.. but do your research before you start spewing nonsense.
MANY of you are forgetting that pitbulls were bred to dog/bull fight, but to remain loyal to their owner. They are a guardian breed after all. Pitbulls can show animal aggression, but they should NEVER show human aggression. They weren't called Nanny Dogs for nothing back in the 30's.
I have a 3 yr old nephew.. his best friend? a pitbull named Vick. Vick gets along with the cat in their home, as well as a turtle. Vick will bark and growl if a stranger tried to come in the door unless my brother tells him it's ok. Then he's wagging his tail and trying to lick your face off.
People will always have back and forth opinions on this breed. But no matter what happens, all I know is that I would fight for my pits if I had to; just like they would for me. They are my 4 legged guardians.
If you don't like the breed; that's fine.. but do your research before you start spewing nonsense.
I've read through all these pages and you are not open minded what so ever why not carry your pistol to a damn cat park cause a dog might attack you there. Again owners fault they should make the commitment of training there dogs better and not be lazy. And a "glance"? Really? How do you know it was in an aggression state? The owners just watched as the dog tried to attack you, right? The owners should jump on that action the dog made immediately. Have you actually even seen a well trained dog or a PitBull none the less?l47;5316275][/B]
Hello; I ride my bicycle along the highway that runs in front of my home. On a hill about two miles into my rides is a trailer with what looks like a pitbull tied to a tree in the yard. I can tell when the owners are gone as the dog will simply glance at me and then ignore me as i ride by. If they are home it barks and strains at the cable as if it intends to chew me up (The owners have some times been in the yard when this happens.) The cable has so far held.
Should the cable break I will not have the speed to get away from it on the hill. I now carry a pistol on my rides as a just in case. Should an incident occur how will being able to blame the owners after the fact be of any use to me?
I guess haters gunna hate. I used to think pitbulls and even some other dogs where only good for fighting. I was told this by media and stupid family members. After actually researching about these dogs , well all I can say my mind set changed in about a week. You guys would just be happy if all the dogs vanished on this earth. when your stuck under an ice sheet of snow, a collapsed building or going on a plane with a bomb who's going to know first? THE OWNERS FIGHT THE DOGS. not dogs fight dogs.[/QUOTE]
Hello; In terms of an open mind we seem to be equally matched if on different sides of the issue.
With regard to the owners of the dog tied to the tree on my bike route, i agree that they should be proactive when their dog displays agressive behavior. They are not. How about this? I give you and any others that may feel the same as you do the address or directions to the property and allow you to talk to them about their dog's behavior. You might also discuss how cruel it is, in my opinion, to keep a dog tied to a tree all the time without a shelter. I have no desire to harm any dog and will be very relieved to not have to defend myself.
With regard to knowing of a well trained dog. I raised a siberian husky from a pup and was dilligent with his training myself. I do not hate all dogs by any stretch of your thinking. I do, however, consider myself a realist. I know that most owners do not take the time or effort to train and control their dogs. Most of the dogs that I have come across have not been agressive, but some have been. All of your good thoughts about pitbull's in particular and dogs in general will not help me or anyone else confronted by the bad dogs.
I want a pitbull because despite what they say as long as they are cared for properly pitbulls can be really nice.
I've read through all these pages and you are not open minded what so ever why not carry your pistol to a damn cat park cause a dog might attack you there. Again owners fault they should make the commitment of training there dogs better and not be lazy. And a "glance"? Really? How do you know it was in an aggression state? The owners just watched as the dog tried to attack you, right? The owners should jump on that action the dog made immediately. Have you actually even seen a well trained dog or a PitBull none the less?
I guess haters gunna hate. I used to think pitbulls and even some other dogs where only good for fighting. I was told this by media and stupid family members. After actually researching about these dogs , well all I can say my mind set changed in about a week. You guys would just be happy if all the dogs vanished on this earth. when your stuck under an ice sheet of snow, a collapsed building or going on a plane with a bomb who's going to know first? THE OWNERS FIGHT THE DOGS. not dogs fight dogs.
Hello; In terms of an open mind we seem to be equally matched if on different sides of the issue.
With regard to the owners of the dog tied to the tree on my bike route, i agree that they should be proactive when their dog displays agressive behavior. They are not. How about this? I give you and any others that may feel the same as you do the address or directions to the property and allow you to talk to them about their dog's behavior. You might also discuss how cruel it is, in my opinion, to keep a dog tied to a tree all the time without a shelter. I have no desire to harm any dog and will be very relieved to not have to defend myself.
With regard to knowing of a well trained dog. I raised a siberian husky from a pup and was dilligent with his training myself. I do not hate all dogs by any stretch of your thinking. I do, however, consider myself a realist. I know that most owners do not take the time or effort to train and control their dogs. Most of the dogs that I have come across have not been agressive, but some have been. All of your good thoughts about pitbull's in particular and dogs in general will not help me or anyone else confronted by the bad dogs.[/QUOTE]
I'll admit this, but in your last paragraph "bad dogs" are causes by bad owners which you also stated. So what's your argument? Or its not? I do agree with you that bad owners cause bad dogs. But if you think that u should also think that good responsible owners keeping a pit will have not have a aggressive media "killer" dog
Hello zfishes; I guess a main point is that it does not matter how they got that way to someone facing a vicious dog. Another main point is that most dog owners , in my experience, do little to control or train their dogs.
look at it from a different point of view. Is it in any way your contention that owners of dogs, of any breed, that have attacked or killed people have been trained by the "bad " owners to do so?
That most dogs seem to me to be untrained would indicate that the owner is responsible for letting them run lose, but not necessairly for their agressive behavior.
The pitbull on my bike route was laying down when I rode by this afternoon. It raised it's head as i went by and then laid it's head back down. I actually have some sympathy for it's plight. That it becomes aggresive and lunges at it's cable when the owners are present does not seem to be because they are trying to sic it on me. The people do not appear to be encouraging the dog to be aggressive They also do not try to stop it or call it back. I cannot explain why the dog acts the way it does, but understanding the behavior will not do me much good if it ever gets free while in that state. There wil not be any joy if i have to shoot the dog, but I will not allow it to maul me.
look at it from a different point of view. Is it in any way your contention that owners of dogs, of any breed, that have attacked or killed people have been trained by the "bad " owners to do so?
That most dogs seem to me to be untrained would indicate that the owner is responsible for letting them run lose, but not necessairly for their agressive behavior.
The pitbull on my bike route was laying down when I rode by this afternoon. It raised it's head as i went by and then laid it's head back down. I actually have some sympathy for it's plight. That it becomes aggresive and lunges at it's cable when the owners are present does not seem to be because they are trying to sic it on me. The people do not appear to be encouraging the dog to be aggressive They also do not try to stop it or call it back. I cannot explain why the dog acts the way it does, but understanding the behavior will not do me much good if it ever gets free while in that state. There wil not be any joy if i have to shoot the dog, but I will not allow it to maul me.
Hello zfishes; I guess a main point is that it does not matter how they got that way to someone facing a vicious dog. Another main point is that most dog owners , in my experience, do little to control or train their dogs.
look at it from a different point of view. Is it in any way your contention that owners of dogs, of any breed, that have attacked or killed people have been trained by the "bad " owners to do so?
That most dogs seem to me to be untrained would indicate that the owner is responsible for letting them run lose, but not necessairly for their agressive behavior.
The pitbull on my bike route was laying down when I rode by this afternoon. It raised it's head as i went by and then laid it's head back down. I actually have some sympathy for it's plight. That it becomes aggresive and lunges at it's cable when the owners are present does not seem to be because they are trying to sic it on me. The people do not appear to be encouraging the dog to be aggressive They also do not try to stop it or call it back. I cannot explain why the dog acts the way it does, but understanding the behavior will not do me much good if it ever gets free while in that state. There wil not be any joy if i have to shoot the dog, but I will not allow it to maul me.
And while you could shoot the dog, you may get held with shooting a fire arm 50 yrds within a house.
Pitbulls are very intelligent, and they need to be stimulated.. this is why they chew on things when they hit about a yr and not when they are puppies.
Chances are the dog would not attack you if it got lose. It would probably chase you for something to do.
If the dog wanted off the chain, it would have found a way to get off. My parents dog chews through 1" thick steel cable.
And while you could shoot the dog, you may get held with shooting a fire arm 50 yrds within a house.
Pitbulls are very intelligent, and they need to be stimulated.. this is why they chew on things when they hit about a yr and not when they are puppies.
Chances are the dog would not attack you if it got lose. It would probably chase you for something to do.
If the dog wanted off the chain, it would have found a way to get off. My parents dog chews through 1" thick steel cable.
Hello; Are you suggesting that because I might be arrested for discharging a firearm near a house, that I allow a dog to attack me?
yes, it seems people want you to be mauled...
I say if you feel threatened use the appropriate force to stop said attack
If the dog is outside 24/7 with no shelter, do it a favor and call the SPCA, a dog deserves better than that.
I say if you feel threatened use the appropriate force to stop said attack
If the dog is outside 24/7 with no shelter, do it a favor and call the SPCA, a dog deserves better than that.
