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No I was only given these 3. I'll probably end up getting the Florida this weekend possibly.
 
There's one way to tell. Measure the front of the eye to the rear of the gill plate. If that distance is greater than 2/3 the snout length then it's spotted. If less than 2/3 the snout length then I'd say it's a Florida.


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Top is florida bottom is spotted. View attachment 1055858

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and wrong. the lower one could be just a long nose.

there is a few different between Florida and spotted gar, but you can't really tell them apart just by looking. DNA test is the easiest way without seriously hurting the fish.
 
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and wrong. the lower one could be just a long nose.

there is a few different between Florida and spotted gar, but you can't really tell them apart just by looking. DNA test is the easiest way without seriously hurting the fish.

How many times do we have to go over this? My spotted gar are proven spotted gar. Collected in local waters and bred by myself.

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How many times do we have to go over this? My spotted gar are proven spotted gar. Collected in local waters and bred by myself.

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I say if it is a spotted then it is just a variety of look on the spotted gar species. I've had a spotted with snout almost that long but also have a few with shorter snout than a short nose. So when you put up a pic like that people will get the wrong idea of how a spotted gar would look like in compare to a Florida.
BTW, a DNA test would be better to know if it is 100% spotted or it have long nose gene in there. There is a chance of it parent(s) is(are) hybrid of some form when you catch them out of the wild.
 
I say if it is a spotted then it is just a variety of look on the spotted gar species. I've had a spotted with snout almost that long but also have a few with shorter snout than a short nose. So when you put up a pic like that people will get the wrong idea of how a spotted gar would look like in compare to a Florida.
BTW, a DNA test would be better to know if it is 100% spotted or it have long nose gene in there. There is a chance of it parent(s) is(are) hybrid of some form when you catch them out of the wild.

I agree with you that a DNA is a definitive result but not the easiest. As most hobbyist do not have it and maybe a breeder would for id purposes. Don't think readily available. Yes spotted and Florida gar are easily mistaken for each other when small but not as adults. Their striping and color differ as well as snout length. I agree with you that snouts are different sizes and lengths. But still should be larger in one group and smaller in another. Hybrids are in the mix and can attribute to this as well.....so are u saying that an alligator far is also a spotted gar based on the variety of the look of spotting?


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I agree with you that a DNA is a definitive result but not the easiest. As most hobbyist do not have it and maybe a breeder would for id purposes. Don't think readily available. Yes spotted and Florida gar are easily mistaken for each other when small but not as adults. Their striping and color differ as well as snout length. I agree with you that snouts are different sizes and lengths. But still should be larger in one group and smaller in another. Hybrids are in the mix and can attribute to this as well.....so are u saying that an alligator far is also a spotted gar based on the variety of the look of spotting?


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gator gar is gator gar, they will never look like spotted or Floridar gar! But Florida and spotted will look alike even as adult, snout length is not the way to tell them. While there is some pattern of spotted you will never see in Florida, a Floridar gar will look about 99% the same as a spotted gar with the same kind of pattern.
BTW, in this picture, can you tell me which one is spotted and which is Florida.
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I think we should stop derailing DrB's post. It's getting a way bit out of control. Also not the way I would like to choose to ID any gar. But I will play along and guess and likely be wrong but I'd say very top is spotted and the rest are floridas.

Let's call Maury Povich for paternity test gar Tuesdays.


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