Getting busted for illegal fish ??

[Zoodiver]

incentives are a good thought but then u have to think of the ppl who could breed them in there own home (lots of ppl here have the tank space) then give those ppl incentives to release them back to the wild then the populaion would boom and its just odd to me that the US is one of the only countries that will not allow you to own a asain

I have yet to meet a single person who had a home tank and set up with the ability to properly maintain long term breeding of fish like asian arowana - let alone maintain them to the level that is needed for reintroduction. I also haven't seen anyone with the money or the desire to.

 

[koop171]

isn't 50000Gal enough to sufice a breeding group ?? or 10000 .... granted they might not want to but not knowing that much aout aros i think 10000-50000gal should be fine to breed in and i know that many ppl would NOT want to reintroduce them into the wild b/c there is too much money to be made in the sale of asians

its not imposible just not likly ...... better lol

 

[koop171]

I have yet to meet a single person who had a home tank and set up with the ability to properly maintain long term breeding of fish like asian arowana - let alone maintain them to the level that is needed for reintroduction. I also haven't seen anyone with the money or the desire to.

just food for thought wouldn't it be cool to work at a zoo that is the ONLY place in america that has a breeding program for asian aros with the sole objective to replentish wild stock. i mean i would travel to see that and there would be not one person to foot the bill for it and the tank space "could" be vast

just a thought

 

[JD7.62]

Some one here in KY back in 2005 got busted with a channa. He ended up with a $25 fine and like $150 in court costs...no probation or nothing...whoop - de - doo...

Here is a link to the article;

http://fw.ky.gov/091405.asp?lid=1250&NavPath=C105C122C520C447

ALMOST makes me wanna risk keeping a banned species in the state...almost...

 

[Polypterus]

just food for thought wouldn't it be cool to work at a zoo that is the ONLY place in america that has a breeding program for asian aros with the sole objective to replentish wild stock. i mean i would travel to see that and there would be not one person to foot the bill for it and the tank space "could" be vast

just a thought

Why would a zoo want to waste resources on a easily replenishable fish that has tons of biologic data available to restock in waters where the local government could care less and does little to protect it ????

There are a hell of a lot more important projects for Zoo's and aquariums to focus their time on than the "Asian lucky fish" which remains in a conservation black hole.

 

[Zoodiver]

Zoos/aquariums want nothing to do with asian arows at all. We have to put up with all the confiscated animals as it is (in the US). On top of that, there are numerous protocols etc that must be followed for animals that are being reintroduced. Not worth it for them to deal with. I feel it should be up to the current breeders to foot the bill. Aren't they the ones making $$ off of the animals being in captive environments in the first place?

 

[Polypterus]

Zoos/aquariums want nothing to do with asian arows at all. We have to put up with all the confiscated animals as it is (in the US). On top of that, there are numerous protocols etc that must be followed for animals that are being reintroduced. Not worth it for them to deal with. I feel it should be up to the current breeders to foot the bill. Aren't they the ones making $$ off of the animals being in captive environments in the first place?

Not wanting to have anything to do with them is far from an exaggeration. These damn Confiscated hobby fish shoved in our possesion are a drain on resources and hell no we do not want them, Especially when they do not fit in collection or conservation plans and also take valuable resources from other more important species in the collection. I personally know keepers that despise these hobby confiscated animals and will purposely undercare for them compared to collection animals with more actual value. They will not give them the same attention as collection animals with actual value and needed attention.

About the only use these confiscated animals have is to try to educate the public as to ESA, state, international or Lacey act laws and as we can see so well on this forum or other media what the hell good does that do us? many still insist on illegally obtaining animals and there is still an open Grey market for them.. All this does is take away our resources for more valuable efforts because stupid Arse hobbyists feel they need a penis (or clitoris) enlargement from the "rare" or forbidden.

Do you really need the damn fish???? Even if you had it what is the frickin point??? What are you doing for it or the whole of the species as far as conservation goes? What are you doing for the reputation of hobbyists in aquatic species? what are you contributing to the hobby? Let me help you here....

YOU ARE DOING NOTHING...

 

[Zoodiver]

Amen.

 

[koop171]

come on guys don't bust my chops over this it was just a thought, I don't work at a zoo or have access to any info on what zoos have to go through in reguards to illegal reposessed fish.


I still think it would be cool to see someone breed them they are indangered after all

 

[RARE AFISHINADO]

I know this is an old thread but I just wanted to clarify that RED GOLD AND RTG AS WELL AS GREEN AROS ARE THE NATURAL WILD COLORATIONS.. THESE ARE NOT MAN MADE COLORS. EACH COLOR HAS ITS OWN RANGE IN THE WILD.

The other end of it would be breeders in the US. They wouldn't be able to produce these color variants that bring in the money. They would have to be genetically diverse. Which really translates to "boring ones" when you talk to Asian Aro enthusiasts. They aren't typically birhgt reds, yellows, golds and greens in the wild. They are a greyish brown with a red highlight to them. Those are the animals you'd have to have if you were breeding for reintroduction.