going to try breeding clown loaches

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Breeding Clown loaches



It is possible to breed Clown Loaches in aquariums, but it is very rare. To begin with, sexing Clown Loaches based on external features is hard. The tail fin tip on a male Clown Loach will however be slightly bent inwards. If the tail fin looks somewhat like a claw, it is probably a male Clown Loach. Female Clown Loaches will not have bent tail fins. You also have to wait until the Clown Loaches are old enough to breed. They usually grow to at least 7 inches (17 centimetres) before they turn sexually mature. Clown Loaches can become 50 years old, so it is not rash to assume that they need to be much older than many other fish species before they can successfully reproduce. You will therefore probably increase the chances of getting Clown Loaches to spawn if your try with rather old individuals. There is a reported instance of Clown Loaches breeding in an aquarium. In this case, four Clown Loaches measuring over 10 inches (25 centimetres) were kept together in a planted aquarium. The water temperature was 84 degrees Fahrenheit. The ammonia and nitrite levels were kept at zero, and the nitrate level below 25. The pH was 6.5.
A few weeks before the spawning occurred, the Clown Loaches changed their normal behaviour and accepted no other food than live fish. This new diet made the females grow very rapidly, and before the spawning commenced their girth size was twice as big as prior to the change of feeding habit.
During the night when the spawning occurred, two Clown Loaches were seen swimming close under the surface entwined in each other. They were producing clicking sounds. The morning after, 450 eggs had been deposited in the aquarium. If your Clown Loaches spawn, you should remove the fish from the aquarium afterwards since they will otherwise eat the eggs.
The Clown Loach fry were given liquid fry food during their first two weeks. As they grow larger, they began to eat pulverised flake food. The fry grew comparatively fast and had reached a length of 1 inch (2.5 centimetres) after 6 weeks. After reaching this length, their growth rate slowed down.
 
running on pure assumption:
Spawning seems to be associated with rain and/or rainy seasons, thus flooding.
So set up a 1000Gal pond in your garage and set 5x Koralia #3s in a bundle along one edge shooting along one wall. Now plumb your roof gutters into the pond, probably with some sort of ball-valve so you can say yes or no. Put in 200Lbs of pool-filter sand, 500x ramshorn and 500x MTS and 100x mystery snails plus 30x small tetras, 50 cherry shrimp and some grassy plants. Now put in 20x 1' segments of 1 & 1.5" PVC pipe or bamboo. Rig up a big filter. Wait 6 weeks for it all to fester & bubble (toil and trouble etc....) then put your loaches in...
Let the ecosystem deal with water quality ('cept for top-ups) and use the rainwater for changes- so get an overflow to let extra out. Might want to wait for summer for that part...
Acid rain can be pH 4 & 5, so move closer to the oil-sands ;), and Bob's yer uncle.
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I wish we could do the big garage pond but up here it would become the indoor rink lol. There is always another way so I will just have to find it as at the size of our loaches I do have some time. I hope someone on this thread will find the magic formula and be kind enough to share. We will all just have to keep on searching as the answer is just around the corner.
 
I have heard that too also heard most cl's we buy are wild caught. Someone told my wife and I once there is hardly a fish out there that can't be captive bred.
 
wild bill;5109411; said:
Someone told my wife and I once there is hardly a fish out there that can't be captive bred.

I dont doubt it, but until Dr Doolittle joins the forum we will just have to try and find out how the hard way.

I am having thoughts about the age / size issue. Certainly CLs can live longer than many fish, a bit like carp, but I am not so sure anout them having to be old and big..... ( or perhaps I am not convinced that they have to be slow growing ) Fish that live in fast turbulent water tend ( i suspect) to live troubled lives due to floods and droughts etc. Having to be ten years old or so before you can breed sounds like the makings of an ecological disaster, a recipe for extinction.

Since we are talking about things we have read..... I am sure that I read somewhere that adults move out of the fast waters into small side streams and header pools as they get older..... so it may be that fast water is the wrong way to go.
 
Your on to something there as there is no mention of the guy who bred them using powerheads. Also don't think fast moving water would be as warm as still water. fast moving water is usualy coming down from a mountain or such where it is a little cooler. As for why would you want to breed when you can buy a challenge is always fun and these things sell real good and for good money.
 
TBH, and I'm sure it won't make me any friends to say it, but the guys who did it sound like blind luck... and brilliant husbandry. Look up the natural habitat incl. seasonal habitats & migrations. Reproductive habits may even be in the academic literature- I'd be a little surprised if they weren't, though I've not been able to find them on-line. Try to emulate.
And if it's not in the literature, sounds like a brilliant excuse for a little Indonesian vacation :)
 
fwlion;5108291; said:
Breeding Clown loaches



It is possible to breed Clown Loaches in aquariums, but it is very rare. To begin with, sexing Clown Loaches based on external features is hard. The tail fin tip on a male Clown Loach will however be slightly bent inwards. If the tail fin looks somewhat like a claw, it is probably a male Clown Loach. Female Clown Loaches will not have bent tail fins. You also have to wait until the Clown Loaches are old enough to breed. They usually grow to at least 7 inches (17 centimetres) before they turn sexually mature. Clown Loaches can become 50 years old, so it is not rash to assume that they need to be much older than many other fish species before they can successfully reproduce. You will therefore probably increase the chances of getting Clown Loaches to spawn if your try with rather old individuals. There is a reported instance of Clown Loaches breeding in an aquarium. In this case, four Clown Loaches measuring over 10 inches (25 centimetres) were kept together in a planted aquarium. The water temperature was 84 degrees Fahrenheit. The ammonia and nitrite levels were kept at zero, and the nitrate level below 25. The pH was 6.5.
A few weeks before the spawning occurred, the Clown Loaches changed their normal behaviour and accepted no other food than live fish. This new diet made the females grow very rapidly, and before the spawning commenced their girth size was twice as big as prior to the change of feeding habit.
During the night when the spawning occurred, two Clown Loaches were seen swimming close under the surface entwined in each other. They were producing clicking sounds. The morning after, 450 eggs had been deposited in the aquarium. If your Clown Loaches spawn, you should remove the fish from the aquarium afterwards since they will otherwise eat the eggs.
The Clown Loach fry were given liquid fry food during their first two weeks. As they grow larger, they began to eat pulverised flake food. The fry grew comparatively fast and had reached a length of 1 inch (2.5 centimetres) after 6 weeks. After reaching this length, their growth rate slowed down.

This guys name was Granville Hammond. He claimed to have bred clowns (info quoted), and said he took photos -- but said he could not produce those photos because they were buried in a storage unit -- almost 20 years later, still no pics. He also claimed to have given away all the fry (someone has yet to come forward and say they received some of these fry) and that these aquarium bred/raised fry were resistant to ich...........
 
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