Goldfish

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i love my goldfish... they are eight years old and go in the outdoor pond in the summer and indoor pond in the winter.. and gold fish are beautiful..
 
I love orandas, used to own them.
Would do it all over again.
Tons of personality. Sortv'e like friendly O's.
 
tankbusterlover;1606006; said:
I never knew that goldfish did not exist in the wild and were a hybrid just like blood parrot. All i knew is that it came from China.
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Does that include the comet? Or just the fancy types?
I've never heard that the common goldfish was a hybrid. A hybrid of what?
I did read somewhere that the comet came from American breeders. But only from one source, and not a good one. So I disregarded it.
So you are saying the Chinese took the koi and crossed it with something to make it smaller?

I'm not into the fancy types, personally. But to each their own.
I like efficiency of design. For all that it can do. I don't think a design should be judged solely on it's ability to kill others, like most predators.
The comet is supremely adaptable. Can,and does live almost anywhere. In conditions that would quickly kill most all of the "tough guys".
No it can't fight well. And does not want to. But that can be a good thing. I don't always want the fish in my tank to be starting trouble.
Goldfish are designed as well or better than any other, for survivability.
And can look as good or better than any other. And they mind their business in a dopey sociable way.
Goldfish have nothing to be ashamed of. Well, not the comet anyway.
 
tankbusterlover;1606006; said:
I never knew that goldfish did not exist in the wild and were a hybrid just like blood parrot. All i knew is that it came from China.
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Think of the gold variety like how once in a while you have an albino. Albinos do not survive in the wild for obvious reasons. Predators can easily spot them so many do no make it to adult which is why you won't see that gene being passed down to their offsprings or see many albinos survive to adulthood.

It existed in the wild before they were selectively bred to keep that gold trait.
 
Spankbelly;1907544; said:
Does that include the comet? Or just the fancy types?
I've never heard that the common goldfish was a hybrid. A hybrid of what?
I did read somewhere that the comet came from American breeders. But only from one source, and not a good one. So I disregarded it.
So you are saying the Chinese took the koi and crossed it with something to make it smaller?

I'm not into the fancy types, personally. But to each their own.
I like efficiency of design. For all that it can do. I don't think a design should be judged solely on it's ability to kill others, like most predators.
The comet is supremely adaptable. Can,and does live almost anywhere. In conditions that would quickly kill most all of the "tough guys".
No it can't fight well. And does not want to. But that can be a good thing. I don't always want the fish in my tank to be starting trouble.
Goldfish are designed as well or better than any other, for survivability.
And can look as good or better than any other. And they mind their business in a dopey sociable way.
Goldfish have nothing to be ashamed of. Well, not the comet anyway.
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i love the way you describe goldfish...i feel the exact same way...:D
 
I keep a bunch of rescued feeders in my pond and my son has one in a 10g tank that is close to 10 years old now.
 
The goldfish isn't a hybrid at all - it's a standard Carassius auratus, a commonly found carp in Asia. They naturally show golden coloring. They have been selectively bred to create the fancy types and intensify that golden color, but they're all the same species. Koi are a different species of carp altogether and hybrids don't often survive. They do exist, but it's difficult to produce them, they're sterile, and not very hardy.
Check these out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carassus_carassus_gold.JPG
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:CarassiusAuratusGibelio.JPG
http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/PicturesSummary.cfm?StartRow=5&ID=271&what=species
http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/PicturesSummary.cfm?StartRow=8&ID=271&what=species
 
I just "inherited" a goldie... :eek:
I was at my aunt's and she was like "oh were tired of cleaning the tank here take it".... I was like :WHOA:! She lend me her fish to put in our pond during the summer... I could not refuse, they kept the poor (now 7 inch) fish in a 10g for 5years, ... they had 3 goldies and one pleco in there... recently yet another goldie died and there is only the biggest one left... I kinda hope the poor thing will die during the summer so it won't have to go back in its tiny tank....
I doubt it will last much longer anyway, there are some blood-looking splotches underneath its scales at some places... :( I'll incite them to take a beautiful betta next time! :)
 
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