Government regulations on large fish

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Will you support government regulations on large fish?


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I would suggest a bit odd method but it would probably work - ban selling fishes that grow huge,but lfs have them as 3-5" babies - those fishes for sale should be no smaller than 1' or even better - if you really want it,you should make special order and fish would be chipped like dogs - chip should contain your name and address, date of purchase, etc...all those ban laws are because of irresponsible owners who let fish free in river or lake when they cant take care of it anymore..

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I would suggest a bit odd method but it would probably work - ban selling fishes that grow huge,but lfs have them as 3-5" babies - those fishes for sale should be no smaller than 1' or even better - if you really want it,you should make special order and fish would be chipped like dogs - chip should contain your name and address, date of purchase, etc...all those ban laws are because of irresponsible owners who let fish free in river or lake when they cant take care of it anymore..

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Not mentioned the costs of the controls/methods to manage the non-native fishes. It's really expensive. Some of these examples:

Snakehead in Burnaby Central Park, B.C Canada.
Snakeheads in Crofton Pond, Maryland.
Goldfish in Lake Tahoe, California.
Piranhas in West Palm Beach, Florida.
Koi carps in New Zealand.
Topmouth Gudgeon in Millennium Coastal Park lakes, UK
 
How is a business supposed to operate outside the "for profit" mindset?

sorry, once again my brain is faster than my fingers.
"anything for profit"
like the guy who threw me out of his store for telling his customer that a smaller tank would not keep the iguana small after he told her it would.
 
No. IMO, the last thing we need is another government agency trying to find ways to justify its own existence by regulating our lives. I'm all for vendors taking responsibility for where their fish go, but a government agency? No way in hell.

Animals are well regulated and for a good reason, watch Animal Cops and you can see why regulation is necessary. I believe similar regulations should apply to fish and reptiles. You may not agree but that is what I believe. I owned a fresh and saltwater store in the 70s and I have seen deplorable conditions in my many years of fish keeping.
Rich
 
Animals are well regulated and for a good reason, watch Animal Cops and you can see why regulation is necessary. I believe similar regulations should apply to fish and reptiles. You may not agree but that is what I believe. I owned a fresh and saltwater store in the 70s and I have seen deplorable conditions in my many years of fish keeping.
Rich

+1. If there was better control on these types of animals then things like the bullseye snakehead and python/boa invasion of Florida wouldn't happen. There should be a public organization who records where fish go, if you bought a goldfish you get put down as buying a gold fish. If you buy ann arowana you get put down as being the owner of the arowana. And with large carnivorous fish a chipping system would be a brilliant idea. It would be more of a mental block to put fish in nature that way. An internet database of who keeps what. If that means we get to keep enjoying this hobby to the fullest extent something like that must happen.

I wouldn't stop keeping fish if they banned tropical species though, I would keep a bowfin/gar tank and breed mosquito fish and be perfectly happy

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i dont agree with more regulation. the government already targets which species to attack. snakeheads and burmese pythons for example were targeted while cats are allowed to roam free, overbreed and kill as they please. the focus should be on education of prospective owners not more control of what can and cannot be kept

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Animals are well regulated and for a good reason, watch Animal Cops and you can see why regulation is necessary. I believe similar regulations should apply to fish and reptiles. You may not agree but that is what I believe. I owned a fresh and saltwater store in the 70s and I have seen deplorable conditions in my many years of fish keeping.
Rich

You have GOT to be kidding me. The problem is a lack of personal responsibility, not the need for government oversight. The government has never fixed anything by taking away the freedom of law abiding Americans.

Let's examine this, shall we?

First, let's assume that the people of the United States decide that we need to create laws to limit the type of fish (other pets would obviously be affected as well, but I'll keep my focus limited for the purpose of this post) that can or cannot be kept in a home aquarium.

Ok, good. Who will enforce these laws?

At this point, with the passing of the laws that ban certain types of fish based on the size that they are capable of growing to, we need to have something to enforce these laws. Current fish bans are based on a fish's protected status or their potential to become invasive and as such fall under the regulation of the Federal Fish and Wildlife Service. A new set of laws that limit the freedom of Americans to keep fish would not be under the FWS' jurisdiction. Many states also have bans in place that are based on their local conditions. Florida bans African tiger fish because they could establish a population, Montana doesn't need to worry about that. Same concept as the laws at the federal level.

So if not FWS or the states, who enforces the laws?

The passing of these laws would require the creation of a new agency to enforce them. It would be responsible for determining the species that could be kept, creating standards that are required to keep them, policing people who don't obey their laws, ect. So now we have an entire new branch of government to enforce the keeping of freaking PETS? The National Pet Safety and Health Administration? Freaking REALLY?!

KEEP IN MIND now, the PEOPLE who work in such an agency would be DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for ensuring that THEY KEEP THEIR JOBS by MAKING IT HARDER TO KEEP OUR PETS.

Think about that for a minute.

Any government agency which controls pet availablility gives PEOPLE the power to ensure their job security by LIMITING THE ABILITY OF OTHERS TO KEEP PETS.

At first it starts out as arapaima and RTC, then it's any fish that gets over three feet, then any over two feet then after a few years all you can keep is a feeder guppy, but you have to apprentice for two years in order to get a permit to keep it on your own. Once you're done with your apprenticeship, you can also keep show guppies, but no more than three males and seven females at one time and you have to register the males to ensure they're not lost.

One needs to only look at our bloated government bureaucracy to see the truth in this. As a federal employee, I'm quite a bit more familiar with this problem than are most civilians.
 
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