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I have 4 rays in a 150 right now. 2 hybrids that are 6-7", 1 from h20 4 months ago, 1 from lfs about 1 month ago, 1 -4.5" hystrix from aquascape 3months ago, 1-6" hystrix from aquascape 1-1/2 months ago.

all have been treated for Prazi at recomended dosage, when obtained.

All eat well, both hybrids are on pellets and hystrix have ate shrimp and worms.
I do 2 50% waterchanges weekly and am very filtered. I do have a sand bottom, but it is very thin. The only fish i ahve in the tank with the rays are 1 armatus 8-9" and 1 silver dollar 4".

I noticed that my bigger female Hystrix skin looks to be peeling off on her back, and it almost looks like small white bumps on her. She has been eating very well, and just finally got weened to eat shrimp. SHe has been burying herself more lately than before. I have read and been keeping up with the threads on the bacterial problems lots of the other guys have been going through, and it does not seem like this to be, her belly looks fine and her "feet" do too. I also noticed that one of her eyes looked to be getting a little fuzz around it like a bacteria or fungus.

Should i just up my waterchanges or start treating?? i am so confused...

on a side note, my male Hystrix the smaller one, is the first one i got from aquascape, and he had very high ammonia in the bag when i first got him, and his eyes have been slightly cloudy now for 3 months. I did treat with macryn2 but did not treat with macryn. All the rays were in the tank during this treatment. I noticed no change whatsoever with the small Hystrix's eyes after treatment, and have assumed that the high ammonia caused permenent damage to his eyes.
Could what the small hystrix has be contagious, or is it that Hystrix have smooth skin they can get bacteria/fungus problems more easiely.?
 
also, right now i do not ahve salt in the system, and my temperature has been 84-86 degrees, i recently cut my temp back to around 78-80.
 
I had what sound sliek something very very similar with 2 of my hystrix. it didnt show up either for about 2-3 weeks and only showed on 2 of the 5 and only 1 real bad. I sed 3 treatments of binox, one treatment every 4 days with a 35% water change. I noticed the one with just a little bit completely cleared up and the bad big male started to heal. i stopeed treatment and now just keep the temp up with a little salt and I would say the male is "medically" fully healed but has a some "scars" where the fingus was that also looks to be slowly bring itself back to normal. in the end I say use binox!!!! I had these 5 rays in a central system with my little azuls and a dew other fish and the treatment had no ill effects on any of the other fish, it justs makes your water turn really yellow. Temp back up to 84+ with salt till you can add binox, my personal experience and advise in this situation. i am almost 99% confident this will help tremendously
 
that is what i was thinking of trying is the binox, but of course no body around me carries it, so i will have to order online..

DOes anybody know if pets mart carries it?
 
I just bought a 20 oz bottle of Binox enough for I think 2800 gallons off of ebay. I can't remember the price but I want to say it was $26 shipped within 3 days. Only 1 place on there had it and they had more bottles. One of my female marble pups got the white spotting and some disk rot around the edge of her disk. The spots have went away after over a week of treating and it looks like the disk has stopped eroding. I am doing the bottle dosing with my temp at 82 degrees. I added 4 lbs of salt per 100 gallon over 2 days. I am now doing 25% water changes and re dosing every 3rd day and not replacing the salt. Seems to be working so far. I would definetly pull the sand out. My main tank has gravel in it and all the rays looked fine in there after I pull the marble pups out. I noticed last night even though I am treating the whole system with binox one of my smaller rays is starting to show signs of slight disk erosion. This tells me like mike has said, it does live in the gravel. This ray has been under treatment for 6 days on gravel and just started showing marks last night.
 
Pet mountain has it in the large quantities. Considering how cheap it is I'd order a few bottles......

Good luck!!!! I've got one dead, another on the way out........ There's no signs of anything wrong. They decide not to eat one day, then dead within 48 hours.

I guess rays are fun for a while but I'm seriously thinking about calling it quits after mine quit dying. Can't deal with this crap.
 
Loss of apetite, skin peeling.... Yup.

I noticed excess slime build up on my lil female right after the 1st time she refused food. Within like 12 hours eyes became really cloudy. Skin started peeling, 24 hours later the rear of the disk was being kept off the bottom, Another 12 hours curling, another 12, dead.

I noticed some fuzziness on my other lil female last night. She refused food. Ate the night before. I could update when I get home......

Binox doesn't seem to be helping in my situation.... But it's been less than a week.
 
DB junkie;2888743; said:
Loss of apetite, skin peeling.... Yup.

I noticed excess slime build up on my lil female right after the 1st time she refused food. Within like 12 hours eyes became really cloudy. Skin started peeling, 24 hours later the rear of the disk was being kept off the bottom, Another 12 hours curling, another 12, dead.

I noticed some fuzziness on my other lil female last night. She refused food. Ate the night before. I could update when I get home......

Binox doesn't seem to be helping in my situation.... But it's been less than a week.


great................ no loss of appetite, but skin looks like it is peeling. Eyes are starting to get kind of cloudy. i just ordered some binox, it can't get here fast enough!
 
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