GSP vs Hughes and Pac vs Morales

[rayman45]

I'd box you ****less zachary.

Baller - Morales and Pacman are splitting 6 mil and they are superfeatherweights, not a mainstream division at all, and neither of them are American.

They are each earning significantly more than the combined purses of any UFC event ever.

i can throw hands... and i got the killer left hook puts kids to sleep.....

any who... **** the ufc

 

[rumblesushi]

He's not remotely overrated. He's been one of the best lighter weight fighters for years, and is a 3 weight world champion. Did you also miss him schooling pacman in the first fight?

How is he overrated?

 

[oddballer]

The weird thing is, MMA in a way is more mainstream now. It's presented as more of a circus show than a professional sport. Boxing is presented in the same way as other professional sports, they don't really need to present it like a cross between a TV show and a circus.

No disrespect to you, but I do see MMA as more of a casual fight fan's choice, for people who just want some well presented entertainment, and a bunch of fights on the same night. Similar to wrestling really. Where as most boxing fans I know are very much fight enthusiasts and appreciate the sweet science.

The viewing figures are catching up a bit - the purses are not.

And honestly - until they do - all the top talent is going to stay in boxing. Why would they train to fight in MMA - a world class boxer earns millions, a world class MMA fighter earns thousands.

Here are the figures for UFC 63

Date of event: September 23rd, 2006.

Location of event: Arrowhead Pond in Anaheim, California

Official Attendance: 12,604

Paid Attendance: 9,343 paid

Live Gate: $1,582,370

Fighter Payouts:

Tyson Griffin ($14,000) def. David Lee ($2,000)

Jorge Gurgel ($10,000) def. Danny Abbadi ($5,000)

Eddie Sanchez ($4,000) def. Mario Neto ($3,000)

Roger Huerta ($6,000) def. Jason Dent ($3,000)

Joe Lauzon ($6,000) def. Jens Pulver ($30,000)

Rashad Evans ($24,000) def. Jason Lambert ($9,000)

Mike Swick ($14,000) def. David Loiseau ($9,000)

Melvin Guillard ($10,000) def. Gabe Ruediger ($3,000)

Matt Hughes ($130,000) def. B.J. Penn ($50,000)

Total fighter payout (not included bonuses mentioned above): $332,000



That's just a joke. Pride pays a bit better but still not close to boxing.

Do you know mayweather is getting at least 8 million for his fight with oscar, and oscar is getting 20 mil + with the PPV revenue?

The difference in earnings is astronomical, and until they start paying top dollar, they won't attract top dollar talent.

very true.... haha circus..... i agree....... but true mma fans know the difference..... example....... the Hughes / Penn card.... that main event was a dream rematch..... yet it bombed at the ticket counter..... the UFC would rather have a champ like Tito Ortiz.... rather than a pay for a talent like Fedor..... why? Marketability...... But boxing isnt too much different...... I'm sure there are countless talented fighters out there than will never make it to the big time....... if Pacman was mexican.... his ugly ass probably wouldnt make it out of the ameteurs....... jk lol...... enuff politics.....

the whole thing is that i came from a boxing..... i used to rush home every tuesday from wrestling practice to watch "tuesday night fights" ..... me and my friend used to box in the back yard........ I may not know who's the best anymore but i fully understand the game..... i used to call fights just like the commentators...... i can appreciate the little intricacys of the clinch/ dirty boxing..... but ive moved on..... i was always a fan of mma..... the the early days were even more "circus" than today....... wasnt till "japan's Pride" started getting some real talent that things started to change......

we each have our bias-ness-ses you growing up boxing.... me wrestling.... if you understand the ground game then you would have a great time watching two guys dry humping... ..... but mma has yet evolved..... today the strikers are dominating...... no longer the grapplers and Ground n pounders....... the interesting thing is that many of these strikers come from a grappling background and learned to strike rather quickly..... fedor (sambo) gomi (wrestling) ...... anyways thats why this gsp hughes fight is so interesting....... gsp is the new breed of fighter...... hes good at everything..... hughes is basically a gnp ....... we will see......

 

[rumblesushi]

Both of those guys got some boxing training though. I agree and I am very glad that strikers are dominating

Not only does it make it more entertaining to watch, but it proves that striking > ***ing.

I do appreciate the skill/talent in takedowns, wrestling, submission locks etc, but to be honest I just find it boring to watch. Royce Gracie is very successful and was a very accomplished MMA fighter, but I would rather watch figure skating than the average gracie fight.

I loved it when ralph gracie got KTFO in about 5 seconds by Gomi.

Have you seen the Gomi Maurelio rematch? I haven't seen it yet, who do you feel won it?

 

[oddballer]

Both of those guys got some boxing training though. I agree and I am very glad that strikers are dominating

Not only does it make it more entertaining to watch, but it proves that striking > ***ing.

I do appreciate the skill/talent in takedowns, wrestling, submission locks etc, but to be honest I just find it boring to watch. Royce Gracie is very successful and was a very accomplished MMA fighter, but I would rather watch figure skating than the average gracie fight.

I loved it when ralph gracie got KTFO in about 5 seconds by Gomi.

Have you seen the Gomi Maurelio rematch? I haven't seen it yet, who do you feel won it?

i skimmed through the rematch..... i would say Maurelio was robbed..... bad style matchup for gomi......

 

[Tongue33]

Not only does it make it more entertaining to watch, but it proves that striking > ***ing.

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Agreed.. I would rather watch stand up kock down drag out wars than hey i'll teach you how to get out of an arm bar so you don't kick my teeth out Not that i am in anyway against winning a fight in the street that way as it is effective and who knows who your going to fight and exactly what their intentions are just not entertaining to watch them roll around on tv. Especially for 30-60.00...

 

[redtailfool]

Its sad that MMA fighters are making pesos (LOL) for fighting in events that
basically outsells boxing matches !! MMA fighters are getting shafted!

Dovii Dude- Morales is not overrated bro.. in fact, hes underrated right now.. they have
forgotten how dangerous he is.. worn out body or not.

 

[rumblesushi]

Erik and Pacman make weight - both 129.5

 

[rayman45]

both looking good... erik looks better then last time....


SO WHOS BUYING THIS FIGHT...

 

[redtailfool]

Erik and Pacman make weight - both 129.5

Allright ! Fight goes on ... Great job by El Terrible of cutting down. Pac is always ripped.

I CANT WAIT FOR TOMMOROW NIGHT! Ill be rootin for Pac while Oddballer swoons on
GSP's sexy grunts !