Gun people! I need a shotgun...

[jcardona1]

Would hate to get a valid source of information when you can rely on the old fish board.................

sometimes there's nothing better than talking to real people. nothing wrong with that. or course its not the only source of credible info, but its not completely worthless info either

 

[rmorse]

how bout you get one of these? lol

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[latshki]

well I just skimmed the thread so I don't know what has been mentioned
but a shotgun is great at home defense as there is nothing more intimidating than a large double barrel shotgun
also someone said that they would rather use a slug, well if you did that there is a lot more chance of a merbel sized ball killing someone than the beads and I don't think killing the person is realy what you want (mansluaghter and guilt)


also they do make good intimidating weapons and I know it first hand as I have a friend who lives out by my cottage and the cottages get broken into a lot as does there house until one of them comes out with their over and under twelve guage and asks nicly for the robbers to leave

 

[jcardona1]

also someone said that they would rather use a slug, well if you did that there is a lot more chance of a merbel sized ball killing someone than the beads and I don't think killing the person is realy what you want (mansluaghter and guilt)

killing the person is what i would want. if somebody comes into my home, im using DEADLY force. non-lethal ammunition is for riot control and the likes. for home defense, id say you want the most lethal ammo you can get. why do you think hollow points are used in home defense for handguns? i dont want to give the guy to come back later and finish the "job". and its not manslaughter. its self defense and perfectly justifiable

 

[JD7.62]

As far as I'm concerned, Shotguns are much better for home protection than handguns. I'm a hunter, but I do consider my shotguns as home protection also.

First. Get to know your gun. If you do not have a background in guns, I suggest taking a hunter's safety course, because that is mainly gun safety. The last thing you want is to be making mistakes with a gun that could prove fatal to yourself.

Second. Get a gunsafe or a trigger lock. I see you're in college. You don't want friends or other people getting to this gun thinking it's a toy. Also, if it's in a safe/locked up, only YOU can use it, it cannot be used against you.

Third. Be safe with your gun. You do not want to make an irreversible mistake. Please be aware of the legal ramifications.

Fourth. Go practice shooting it. Take it to a gun range. Shoot slugs, shoot birdshot, shoot buckshot. Try it all and get good with it. Targets are harder to hit than you think. Again, you want to hit your intended target, not something else.

Fifth. Don't keep it loaded at all times. Not even with a trigger guard on or in a gun safe. That is asking for trouble. Keep the gun and the ammo separate until you intend to use it.


As far as shotguns go, I love and swear by Remington. I have an 870 and an 1187 Sportsman. The 870 is a pump, the 1187 is a semi-automatic. The 1187 is significantly more expensive, but it's a hunting shotgun and I find it more beneficial to me when hunting. The 870 is a classic as far as home protection goes. I worked at a Bass Pro and sold several 870's as home protection. I like one with wooden stocks, I think they sound a little more intimidating than synthetic stocks, and if you're looking for protection, intimidation is the way to go. If you can scare them off with loading the gun and not use it, thats even better.

For ammo, I prefer 00Buckshot when it comes to home protection. Birdshot sprays more and could result in you hitting something that isn't your intended target, it also does a little less damage. Slugs are the ultimate, but you have to be accurate and they leave a big hole and I mean a BIG hole. An irreversible hole. Buckshot is a little bit of both, but thats just preference.

I know this was long, but guns are something I do know a lot about and I could never encourage safety enough. I hope it didn't come off as a mean post, but the last thing I would want to see is a fellow MFK'er get hurt! Good luck, if you've got any more questions, just let me know

The worst advice yet!

NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER use a weapon as a form of intimidation. For one, in the time it takes for your to "scare" them with your weapon you could be dead.

If you pull a weapon, use it. Other wise you dont need it.

 

[rmorse]

well I just skimmed the thread so I don't know what has been mentioned
but a shotgun is great at home defense as there is nothing more intimidating than a large double barrel shotgun
also someone said that they would rather use a slug, well if you did that there is a lot more chance of a merbel sized ball killing someone than the beads and I don't think killing the person is realy what you want (mansluaghter and guilt)


also they do make good intimidating weapons and I know it first hand as I have a friend who lives out by my cottage and the cottages get broken into a lot as does there house until one of them comes out with their over and under twelve guage and asks nicly for the robbers to leave

100% I would rather have the person piss his/her pants, and run out of my house, then for me to blow off their head. This is why I am choosing a shotgun, the sound and look is unmistakable.

 

[latshki]

you can be charged for mansluahter if you kill the person but also with the pellets two shots would pretty much garentee death

 

[rmorse]

killing the person is what i would want. if somebody comes into my home, im using DEADLY force. non-lethal ammunition is for riot control and the likes. for home defense, id say you want the most lethal ammo you can get. why do you think hollow points are used in home defense for handguns? i dont want to give the guy to come back later and finish the "job". and its not manslaughter. its self defense and perfectly justifiable

That is true...Still, I would rather have the person know I am armed, and look for an easier target. That being said, I would not hesitate to use deadly force to protect myself and my family.

The worst advice yet!

NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER use a weapon as a form of intimidation. For one, in the time it takes for your to "scare" them with your weapon you could be dead.

If you pull a weapon, use it. Other wise you dont need it.

I'm not sure I agree with this. I am using the shotgun for both intimidation and as a tool for my survival. I believe that these can be used simultaneously, as the sound of the shotgun cocking is extremely intimidating.

 

[JD7.62]

well I just skimmed the thread so I don't know what has been mentioned
but a shotgun is great at home defense as there is nothing more intimidating than a large double barrel shotgun
also someone said that they would rather use a slug, well if you did that there is a lot more chance of a merbel sized ball killing someone than the beads and I don't think killing the person is realy what you want (mansluaghter and guilt)


also they do make good intimidating weapons and I know it first hand as I have a friend who lives out by my cottage and the cottages get broken into a lot as does there house until one of them comes out with their over and under twelve guage and asks nicly for the robbers to leave

Funny, I just posted saying that some one else had the worse advice, I think you may have gotten that title now!

Use a weapon for one reason and one reason only to take a life in self defense. The reason why personal defense loads are so deadly is because a dead guy cant shoot back. Also a dead guy cant falsely accuse you of something you didnt do and putting you in prison.

If a situation arises where a gun is needed, it wont be needed for intimidation and it wont be needed to injure some one. Guns are deadly weapons and used just for that. Period.

Take any fire arms training class focused on self defense and you will know these very basic principals. Heck even ask a LEO. Why do you think everytime there is an officer involved shooting, the shooting doesnt stop until the mags are empty?

 

[jcardona1]

The worst advice yet!

NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER use a weapon as a form of intimidation. For one, in the time it takes for your to "scare" them with your weapon you could be dead.

If you pull a weapon, use it. Other wise you dont need it.

true. while the sound of a 12ga can scare some bad guys off, it dont mean thats the end of it. just cause the guy runs doesnt mean its over. pulling the trigger is the only way to assure the home invasion will END.

you never know. he could come back that same night with more buddies and more weapons. then what? bet youll wish you pulled the trigger the first time