Half Eaten Oscar...The Saga Continues

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driftwood said:
You really need to chill out. This is a public forum and people are going to have different opinions. Why can't you understand that? The OP seems happy with his fish but that doesn't mean that everyone would make the same decision he did.
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Yes I know that and in my opinion people who kill animals because they are ignorant are jackbags so why can't you understand that? Why are you guys even in this thread? You obviously stated you don't care about if this fish lives or dies and said that it is a waste of space and you said you still would have killed it long ago. So why are you here? Feeling guilty? That's what I thought


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:ROFL: .......:duh: The Irony of this. Defending the life of the half eaten oscar, and then suggesting a pool for when the half eaten oscar eats the neon.

Hopefully it eats the whole neon, otherwise there may be two cripple fish to care for.
 
Comparing a tropical fish to a human being is ridiculous. I love my fish and I love this hobby, but I would not put the fish on the same level as my family or my children.

Fish get culled, eaten, and killed every day. What do you say to people who feed their oscars feeder fish? How is one any less cruel than another? If you have a severely injured fish and you want to try and nurse it back to health, that's your business. It doesn't mean everyone would do the same if faced with similar circumstances. I had a female Laetacara dorsigera get destroyed by her mate and the caudal, anal, and dorsal fins never grew back. I kept her in a 55 gallon with grow-out fry. She learned to work with her disability, but she never really thrived again. If you're going to anthropomorphize a fish by comparing it to a human, then don't you also have to look at its quality of life? Eating and surviving is one thing but that does not mean thriving. If you're going to say it's cruel to put a fish down, don't you also have to consider that it could be cruel to let them struggle for the rest of their lives to find food, swim properly, etc.? Oscars have the potential to live 8 - 10 years, if not more. Is OP going to keep this fish for the rest of its life? If not, what will happen to it? Will anyone want it? There's always the chance it will be doomed to a 20 gallon tank in the corner of a pet store somewhere.

I think there are a lot of factors that people don't consider before making a knee-jerk reaction to threads like these.
 
ryansmith83 said:
Comparing a tropical fish to a human being is ridiculous. I love my fish and I love this hobby, but I would not put the fish on the same level as my family or my children.

Fish get culled, eaten, and killed every day. What do you say to people who feed their oscars feeder fish? How is one any less cruel than another? If you have a severely injured fish and you want to try and nurse it back to health, that's your business. It doesn't mean everyone would do the same if faced with similar circumstances. I had a female Laetacara dorsigera get destroyed by her mate and the caudal, anal, and dorsal fins never grew back. I kept her in a 55 gallon with grow-out fry. She learned to work with her disability, but she never really thrived again. If you're going to anthropomorphize a fish by comparing it to a human, then don't you also have to look at its quality of life? Eating and surviving is one thing but that does not mean thriving. If you're going to say it's cruel to put a fish down, don't you also have to consider that it could be cruel to let them struggle for the rest of their lives to find food, swim properly, etc.? Oscars have the potential to live 8 - 10 years, if not more. Is OP going to keep this fish for the rest of its life? If not, what will happen to it? Will anyone want it? There's always the chance it will be doomed to a 20 gallon tank in the corner of a pet store somewhere.

I think there are a lot of factors that people don't consider before making a knee-jerk reaction to threads like these.
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Agreed, we all have different opinions on the matter and attacking another member because he/she has a different opinion is pointless. Jay you might not agree with Brian but theres no need to call him such.
 
ryansmith83 said:
Comparing a tropical fish to a human being is ridiculous. I love my fish and I love this hobby, but I would not put the fish on the same level as my family or my children.

Fish get culled, eaten, and killed every day. What do you say to people who feed their oscars feeder fish? How is one any less cruel than another? If you have a severely injured fish and you want to try and nurse it back to health, that's your business. It doesn't mean everyone would do the same if faced with similar circumstances. I had a female Laetacara dorsigera get destroyed by her mate and the caudal, anal, and dorsal fins never grew back. I kept her in a 55 gallon with grow-out fry. She learned to work with her disability, but she never really thrived again. If you're going to anthropomorphize a fish by comparing it to a human, then don't you also have to look at its quality of life? Eating and surviving is one thing but that does not mean thriving. If you're going to say it's cruel to put a fish down, don't you also have to consider that it could be cruel to let them struggle for the rest of their lives to find food, swim properly, etc.? Oscars have the potential to live 8 - 10 years, if not more. Is OP going to keep this fish for the rest of its life? If not, what will happen to it? Will anyone want it? There's always the chance it will be doomed to a 20 gallon tank in the corner of a pet store somewhere.

I think there are a lot of factors that people don't consider before making a knee-jerk reaction to threads like these.
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You obviously didnt read my post correctly. I didn't put fish on the same level as humans although there are many humans that I know and have met that are below fish standards. I clearly made an example of comparing injuries and why you wouldn't put either of them down because of it. Just because you don't like the way it looks or the way it swims you choose to kill it and that is totally wrong in my opinion. And there is just as much chance that a healthy perfect fish will live its life in a 10 gallon so that point you made is useless.


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ultimatejay said:
I didn't put fish on the same level as humans although there are many humans that I know and have met that are below fish standards. I clearly made an example of comparing injuries and why you wouldn't put either of them down because of it.
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But you're comparing the injuries of human beings to the injuries of fish. You said, "I hope you never have a kid with a disability for the kids sake!" You're implying that just because someone would euthanize a fish that's been severely injured, they would do the same to their own child. You cannot compare the two things, IMO. I would sacrifice a lot of things for my family that I would not sacrifice for my fish.

And there is just as much chance that a healthy perfect fish will live its life in a 10 gallon so that point you made is useless.
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It's not a useless point. The fish in question is an oscar. Oscars are going to require at least a 75 gallon tank, possibly larger, regardless of whether or not it's missing its tail and caudal peduncle. If the OP is willing to give this fish the care it requires, that's great. However, if he ever chooses to ditch the fish and it ends up in the LFS, what are the chances someone will take it home over the plethora of healthy, in-tact oscars that are probably also living there?

It's funny how opinions differ. If someone told me I could live the rest of my life but only confined to my closet, I'd say to go ahead and shoot me now. :ROFL:
 
absolutely mind numbing.

Didn't do it. doing it worse is proof.
wow.
 
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