Have some concern's on BD pups or BD in general?

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
Clearwater guy;5032927; said:
Stop this IMMEDIATELY. Stop justifying his dishonesty. Stop believing what is obviously one lie built upon another.

NO-ONE would put those un-healthy skinny rays in with large healthy rays that were already QT'd...

Even if they were together...it is VERY easy to divide rays at feeding time.

You were never going to get any rays...

He never intended to ship any Rays for Thursday, nor doesn he intend to ship them next week.

These people are all telling you...

Start the process of disputing these payments immediately.

IMMEDIATELY.

Mike
Ditto....I am glad it's not my money. Kind of hard to even feel sorry for OP. Must be kind of on the :screwy: side to be this gullible. Can't believe how so many people still fall victim to these scammers with all the info on these scammers on this site. If it was me I would be taking a road trip to his front door with fists clenched for some clobbering time! :headbang2

 
Should have inquired instead of trying to impress. "The source" was questioned from day one and we were all told it was trustworthy.

Can lead a horse to water but it's up to the horse if it wants to listen to advice that's given even though it's not asked for? Wait, might have got that wrong.

REALLY hate to say it, but it seems common place these days to have to bend over and grab your ankles at least a few times if you're going to have freshwater rays. It's this part of the hobby that makes me sick to my stomach. Sad part is you will NEVER find a source for rays that doesn't have controversy associated with them.

I ask questions to share thoughts. Most of the time I know the answers but like to get others ideas as well as several minds should be better then 1. One thing I've learned with rays..... When in doubt ASK!!!! Never hurtds to ask. No matter if it's a source for buying rays, sick rays, or filtrastion for rays..... Just ask.

Like mentioned before, the die hard raykeepers aren't gonna lead you astray in any way shape or form.
 
as anyone ever visited this guy nate's business..knowing what a con he is, i'd sure like to walk in his place of business and meet him face to face..i know many whom have been duped by this guy..it takes alot of balls to do what he does and be open to the public in a business.
 
digginrays;5033415; said:
as anyone ever visited this guy nate's business..knowing what a con he is, i'd sure like to walk in his place of business and meet him face to face..i know many whom have been duped by this guy..it takes alot of balls to do what he does and be open to the public in a business.

His store closed. He just runs scams online now.
 
frnchjeep;5033437; said:
His store closed. He just runs scams online now.

Thats just plain sad....for new unknowingly buyer to purchase and have their money taken. I just would recommend doing your research before purchasing from any vendor because its not worth for a sour transaction. In the end the lost would be on the buyer's end...money...time..anticipation..
 
Cut your losses man. I've been in this hobby for over a decade now and have kept rays for well over half of that. I've not only been a hobbyist, but I've been an importer/exporter and ran a home retail business. I know the best and worst of the hobbies. This smelled of a scam when I read the first few posts.

Don't feel too bad though. You are not alone, this (unfortunately) happens to good (often naive) hobbyists all the time. Even I have been in your shoes before.

Money comes and goes, it sucks to lose it, but it isn't worth the headaches. At least you've learned a very valuable (and expensive) lesson. Take the time to recuperate, spend the money on a nice set up and search for some extra nice marbles. There aren't very many rays that can rival a top of the line marble. Plus you can get a stunning ray for under four digits with marbles. Currently Jeff Rapps has some really nice cb marbles. He's legit, great guy to deal with.

Then later down the road, after you've learned the ropes with some cheaper rays, invest in some black rays.

That's just my opinion though. 6 years ago I bought my first Motoro, spent $150. The fish was tough enough to deal with the random mistakes I made. I learned the ropes and since then I have been lucky to keep, motoros, marbleds, leopoldi, henlei, sp. xingu, flowers, tigers, scobina, boesemani etc.

GL in the future,

JMorash
 
Hey fellas,
I just want to say I was wrong about Nate / massaggression! This weekend, nate and I discussed about my concerns on my stingrays. He had a good reason why I didn't receive my rays last thursday. Soon, enough my stingrays will be in my possession. :headbang2
I want to apologize to Nate Massaggression for talking bad toward him. I also just want to say that Nate is a GREAT guy! A GREAT friend! A Great company to buy all of your freshwater fish from! :naughty: He answered all of my silly question's (I had alot). I'm very picky when it comes to choosing the perfect stingray. Nate was awesome enough to provide all the pics and videos I wanted!
And, you shouldn't judge him just because there was complications with him and certain mfk members in the past. Unless, you were actually dealing with him and there was a problem? Don't judge him and don't brush him off, just because SO in SO didn't like something. Give Nate a chance, he will bend over backward to get you TOP quality fish! :drool:
The OWNER of MFK should give Nate Massaggression another chance! I know nate would give 150% effort in providing the best variety and quality fish that he could!

Please, consider Nate massaggression as a resource for all new fish!
 
LMAO.... how gullible can ya get.

SERIOUSLY.... if you get your rays then i will eat my words, but until you get your rays, dont be getting on here saying what a great guy he is lol.

when is he suppose to ship them to you now??
 
I just hope if you do receive them that they aren't shipped in a zip lock baggy as I have seen done to another member.

GL
 
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